freebsd stable - Apr 2021 - Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users?

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 15:09, Chris <bsd-lists at bsdforge.com>
wrote:
>
> I can only state that I use it only occasionally, and that when I do. I
> have had no problems with it. I'm glad that it's there when I need
it.
Thanks for the reply. Can you comment on your use cases - in
particular, did you use mirror, stripe, or raid5? If the first two
then gmirror, gconcat, gstripe, and/or graid are suitable
replacements.

I'm not looking to deprecate it just because it's old, but because of
a mismatch between user and developer expectations about its
stability.

On 2021-03-26 07:22, Ed Maste wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 15:09, Chris <bsd-lists at bsdforge.com>
wrote:
>> 
>> I can only state that I use it only occasionally, and that when I do. I
>> have had no problems with it. I'm glad that it's there when I
need it.
> 
> Thanks for the reply. Can you comment on your use cases - in
> particular, did you use mirror, stripe, or raid5? If the first two
> then gmirror, gconcat, gstripe, and/or graid are suitable
> replacements.
Thank you for the reply. :-)
Sure. My only needs have been for:
gstripe gmirror or gconcat.
> 
> I'm not looking to deprecate it just because it's old, but because
of
> a mismatch between user and developer expectations about its
> stability.
Sure. I understand. Thanks for mentioning it.

--Chris
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On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:22:53AM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 15:09, Chris <bsd-lists at bsdforge.com> wrote:
| >
| > I can only state that I use it only occasionally, and that when I do. I
| > have had no problems with it. I'm glad that it's there when I
need it.
| 
| Thanks for the reply. Can you comment on your use cases - in
| particular, did you use mirror, stripe, or raid5? If the first two
| then gmirror, gconcat, gstripe, and/or graid are suitable
| replacements.
| 
| I'm not looking to deprecate it just because it's old, but because of
| a mismatch between user and developer expectations about its
| stability.

It would be nice if graid got full support for RAID5 alteast I'm not sure
how much the others are used for that are not fully supported (RAID4,
RAID5, RAID5E, RAID5EE, RAID5R, RAID6, RAIDMDF) according to the man
page.  I started to hack in RAID5 full support and try to avoid writes
if members didn't change.  This limits our VROC support.

Thanks,

Doug A.

On 01.04.2021 2:39, Doug Ambrisko wrote:
> | > I can only state that I use it only occasionally, and that when I
do. I
> | > have had no problems with it. I'm glad that it's there when
I need it.
> |
> | Thanks for the reply. Can you comment on your use cases - in
> | particular, did you use mirror, stripe, or raid5? If the first two
> | then gmirror, gconcat, gstripe, and/or graid are suitable
> | replacements.
> |
> | I'm not looking to deprecate it just because it's old, but
because of
> | a mismatch between user and developer expectations about its
> | stability.
> 
> It would be nice if graid got full support for RAID5 alteast I'm not
sure
> how much the others are used for that are not fully supported (RAID4,
> RAID5, RAID5E, RAID5EE, RAID5R, RAID6, RAIDMDF) according to the man
> page.  I started to hack in RAID5 full support and try to avoid writes
> if members didn't change.  This limits our VROC support.
  My experience, as co-author and maintainer of `sysutil/graid5`, shows, that it
is very non-trivial task. It contains many subtle problems.

  `graid5` still has some undiscovered problems, and I don't think it worth
fixing in 2021, when we have ZFS for many years.


-- 
// Lev Serebryakov