freebsd stable - Dec 2018 - Common Desktop Environment broken when compiling from ports tree on FreeBSD 12 RC3 (May also apply to the final build)

CC the package maintainer.

As for powerpc on tier 1, I'm afraid that it's not likely to ever
happen.  Powerpc is dying.  If anybody were buying new ppc hardware,
then it would be a different story.  But I predict that powerpc is
likely to be dropped than to go Tier 1.  Sorry.

-Alan

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:42 PM Alex McKeever
<alex.mckeever at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I ran into problems compiling the CDE in FreeBSD 12.0 RC3 (PowerPC) on my
eMac. It says it is broken and cannot be compiled. Also, any ETA on when this
port of the OS will go into Tier 1? Compiling software, desktop environments,
X11, using 11.1 and the now unsupported 10.4 failed when I tried those a while
back (and personally I have been partial to Linux and how easily I can just get
software via APT or Zypper... I would be running Debian Sid if they didn?t drop
support for the eMac in terms of my internal display not working after Jessie)
>
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 06:12:35PM -0700, Alan Somers
wrote:
> As for powerpc on tier 1, I'm afraid that it's not likely to ever
> happen.  Powerpc is dying.  If anybody were buying new ppc hardware,
> then it would be a different story.  But I predict that powerpc is
> likely to be dropped than to go Tier 1.  Sorry.
Thank you for discouraging me and the other folks working on powerpc64.

New systems with Power9 are being sold by a company called Raptor
Systems in Round Rock, Texas.  Several developers have them, and others
(including me) have them on order.

I have been working on bringing powerpc64 ports up to parity for quite
some time.  If you are not aware of the effort that myself, and many
others, have been putting in, then you are obviously not reading the
svnports@ list, and should not be speaking as an authority.

src work on supporting P8 and P9 is also in very active development.

Please try to keep up with the development situation for a plaform
before posting about it.  Frankly, I find your post insulting.

mcl

Let's speak with a bit more precision.  PowerPC (32-bit), with only a
lingering handful of embedded uses is "dying" and is only marginally
more relevant than the likes of sparc64.

PPC64 with the advent of Power9 is the only real alternative platform
to amd64 in the data center and the only platform other than amd64 to
fully support modern graphics cards on FreeBSD. The limited volume of
Raptor motherboards means that NRE costs are reflected in the board
cost - so it will continue to be a niche solution, but it is
definitely not going away any time soon.



On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Alan Somers <asomers at freebsd.org>
wrote:
>
> CC the package maintainer.
>
> As for powerpc on tier 1, I'm afraid that it's not likely to ever
> happen.  Powerpc is dying.  If anybody were buying new ppc hardware,
> then it would be a different story.  But I predict that powerpc is
> likely to be dropped than to go Tier 1.  Sorry.
>
> -Alan
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:42 PM Alex McKeever
> <alex.mckeever at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > I ran into problems compiling the CDE in FreeBSD 12.0 RC3 (PowerPC) on
my eMac. It says it is broken and cannot be compiled. Also, any ETA on when this
port of the OS will go into Tier 1? Compiling software, desktop environments,
X11, using 11.1 and the now unsupported 10.4 failed when I tried those a while
back (and personally I have been partial to Linux and how easily I can just get
software via APT or Zypper... I would be running Debian Sid if they didn?t drop
support for the eMac in terms of my internal display not working after Jessie)
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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If we are talking powerpc32 and not powerpc64 (as I assumed), the one
developer continuing to actively work on it is jhibbits at .  Perhaps he
can give you a status report.

mcl

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 6:33 PM Alan Somers <asomers at freebsd.org wrote:
> CC the package maintainer.
>
> As for powerpc on tier 1, I'm afraid that it's not likely to ever
> happen.  Powerpc is dying.  If anybody were buying new ppc hardware,
> then it would be a different story.  But I predict that powerpc is
> likely to be dropped than to go Tier 1.  Sorry.
>
Power8 is changing that. More $$$ going into making that work well. Maybe
not to Tier 1, but not dying.

Warner

-Alan
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:42 PM Alex McKeever
> <alex.mckeever at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > I ran into problems compiling the CDE in FreeBSD 12.0 RC3 (PowerPC) on
> my eMac. It says it is broken and cannot be compiled. Also, any ETA on when
> this port of the OS will go into Tier 1? Compiling software, desktop
> environments, X11, using 11.1 and the now unsupported 10.4 failed when I
> tried those a while back (and personally I have been partial to Linux and
> how easily I can just get software via APT or Zypper... I would be running
> Debian Sid if they didn?t drop support for the eMac in terms of my internal
> display not working after Jessie)
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> > _______________________________________________
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