On 18. 12. 6., Jeremy Chadwick wrote:> I'm not subscribed to -stable.
>
> This is in response to jkim@'s messages here:
>
>
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2018-December/090202.html
>
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2018-December/090202.html
>
> Based on what I can tell, OpenSSL 1.1.1 or thereabouts removed the
> cryptodev OpenSSL engine, which was a tie-in to BSD's cryptodev(4),
> which is accessed via /dev/crypto and related crypto(4) ioctls.
>
> Instead, they offered a replacement engine called devcrypto (what an
> awful name), with the primary focus being against something from Linux
> called cryptodev-linux, then was made to work on FreeBSD 8.4. This code
> was as of June 2017; 8.4 was EOL'd August 2015. Interesting.
>
> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/commit/4f79aff is not "add support
> for BSD" at all. It's "tweak further stuff for BSD",
probably to get it
> to work on newer FreeBSD; they seem to care about crypto/cryptodev.h
> details. I asked myself: why do they care about that if they're doing
> it all themselves? Looking at the code sheds light on that. The actual
> devcrypto engine commits that added BSD support are here:
>
> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/3744
> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/3744/files
>
> The commits indicate that the devcrypto is enabled by default on
> FreeBSD. But we can tell from Herbert's post and jkim@'s patch
that's
> not true at all, i.e. FreeBSD disables it. Why? And is that a good
> default?
Why do you think it is enabled by default?
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/619eb33/Configure#L428
Note crypto(4) was imported from OpenBSD. Since OpenBSD 4.9, it was
disabled by default.
https://www.openbsd.org/plus49.html
Then, they killed it in 5.7.
https://www.openbsd.org/plus57.html
o Unlinked the crypto(4) pseudo device (disabled by default for about 4
years).
Now FreeBSD is the only major BSD with /dev/crypto. That's why new
engine was not thoroughly tested.
> Here's why I ask:
>
> The new devcrypto engine most definitely utilises /dev/crypto (thus
> cryptodev(4) and crypto(4)). cipher_init(), prepare_cipher_methods(),
> digest_init(), and prepare_digest_methods() all utilise that interface:
>
>
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/3744/files#diff-027f92eb0a10c0986aec873d9fd1ab66
>
> So while OpenSSL now uses more of its own native C and assembly code
> (e.g. for AES-NI support), and that's certainly faster than all the
> overhead that cryptodev(4) brings with it (see jhb@'s post), I wonder:
>
> 1. What happens to people using crypto hardware accelerators, ex.
> hifn(4), padlock(4), ubsec(4), and safe(4)? How exactly would OpenSSL
> utilise these H/W accelerators if the devcrypto engine is disabled?
padlock has a dynamic engine, i.e., /usr/lib/engines/padlock.so. I
believe glxsb, hifn(4), safe(4), and ubsec(4) users are very rare
nowadays. If we have significant number of users and they show
reasonable performance, then I will reconsider my decision.
> 2. If the devcrypto engine is *enabled*, and people have aesni(4)
> loaded alongside cryptodev(4), which gets priority: OpenSSL's native
> AES-NI code or cryptodev(4)/aesni(4)?
I believe jhb@ answered this question already.
> Likewise: if the decrypto engine is to remain disabled as a default:
> this needs to be made crystal clear in Release Notes, so that folks
> using H/W accelerators know they'll no longer benefit from those cards
> unless they use a patch (third-party so/module won't work, AFAIT, as
> OpenSSL's dynamic engine loading is unavailable per openssl engine -t).
> Might I suggest enabling devcrypto be capable via src.conf, ex.
> WITH_OPENSSL_ENGINE_DEVCRYPTO=true?
Actually, dynamic engines work as expected[1].
% openssl version
OpenSSL 1.1.1a-freebsd 20 Nov 2018
% cat silly-engine.c
...
% cc -fPIC -o silly-engine.o -c silly-engine.c
% cc -shared -o silly-engine.so -lcrypto silly-engine.o
% openssl engine -t -c `pwd`/silly-engine.so
(/home/jkim/silly-engine.so) A silly engine for demonstration purposes
Loaded: (silly) A silly engine for demonstration purposes
[ available ]
Jung-uk Kim
1.
https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2015/10/08/engine-building-lesson-1-a-minimum-useless-engine/
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