* Patrick M. Hausen wrote:>> Am 18.08.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Pete French <petefrench at ingresso.co.uk>: >> The HP micro servers work very well, and you can pick them up remakably cheaply [...] >> Not sure about ECC memory support there though. > >They do support ECC, no problem. > >They are available with different CPU configurations from >as Pete said remarkably cheap Celeron D based systems >up to Xeon CPUs.I've just sold my Microserver Gen8 (Xeon) just recently. It's a beautiful little machine, but I didn't make me happy in the long run. Reasons: - Limited to 8GB Ram in total - Only 4 HDDs - JBOD support is not great - Harddrives are never going to sleep (not supported) Installing FreeBSD was harder than expected. The machine refused to boot FreeBSD from the internal non-raid SATA ports. I didn't try FreeNAS though. Also, in case you go with a Microserver - I think all non-xeon models do not support AES-NI, which will cut the throughput in case you plan to encrypt your drives. iX-Systems would have been my choice to replace this machine until I found out that I can build something myself that suits my needs even better. Note, I was looking at the 8 bay model and I would have to add around $280 for shipping and tax to Germany. I'm now going for this custom build: - Fractal Design Define R5 Reason: Silent, enough space for 12 drives - SuperMicro MBD-A1SAI-2550F-O Reason: IPMI, ECC, AES-NI, 64GB Ram, Intel NIC, low power consumption - 4x 8GB Kingson ECC SODIMM Reason: 16GB modules are not yet available - Seasonic X-Series Fanless X-400FL 400W passiv Reason: Fanless -> silent The complete order was around 1000? That being said, I'm planning to put an older 3ware controller in JBOD mode in it and I also have SSDs and drives already. The board has only 6 SATA ports. But that would be enough for you. This might be a little big for you. But maybe it gives you ideas. Best Regards, Stefan
Patrick M. Hausen
2017-Aug-18 12:21 UTC
recommendations for file server based zfs appliance
Hi!> Am 18.08.2017 um 14:03 schrieb Stefan Hagen <freebsd-stable-list at textmail.me>: > > * Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >>> Am 18.08.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Pete French <petefrench at ingresso.co.uk>: >>> The HP micro servers work very well, and you can pick them up remakably cheaply [...] >>> Not sure about ECC memory support there though. >> >> They do support ECC, no problem. >> >> They are available with different CPU configurations from >> as Pete said remarkably cheap Celeron D based systems >> up to Xeon CPUs. > > I've just sold my Microserver Gen8 (Xeon) just recently. > It's a beautiful little machine, but I didn't make me happy in the long run. > > Reasons: > - Limited to 8GB Ram in total > - Only 4 HDDs > - JBOD support is not great > - Harddrives are never going to sleep (not supported) > > Installing FreeBSD was harder than expected. The machine refused to boot FreeBSD > from the internal non-raid SATA ports. I didn't try FreeNAS though.smbios.system.product="ProLiant MicroServer Gen8" CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1220L V2 @ 2.30GHz (2294.80-MHz K8-class CPU) 16 GB RAM, FreeBSD installation was no problem at all. What do you mean by "JBOD support"? Disable RAID in the systems BIOS setup, put ZFS on AHCI drives ... ahci0: <Intel Cougar Point AHCI SATA controller> port 0x10c0-0x10c7,0x10c8-0x10cb,0x10d0-0x10d7,0x10d8-0x10db,0x10e0-0x10ff mem 0xfacd0000-0xfacd07ff irq 17 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 6 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich0: <AHCI channel> at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: <WDC WD2000FYYZ-01UL1B0 01.01K01> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) This is our office file, print and mail server. No FreeNAS this time, just plain FreeBSD. Patrick -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20170818/6953d092/attachment.sig>
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Stefan Hagen <freebsd-stable-list at textmail.me> wrote:> * Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >>> >>> Am 18.08.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Pete French <petefrench at ingresso.co.uk>: >>> The HP micro servers work very well, and you can pick them up remakably >>> cheaply [...] >>> Not sure about ECC memory support there though. >> >> >> They do support ECC, no problem. >> >> They are available with different CPU configurations from >> as Pete said remarkably cheap Celeron D based systems >> up to Xeon CPUs. > > > I've just sold my Microserver Gen8 (Xeon) just recently. > It's a beautiful little machine, but I didn't make me happy in the long run. > > Reasons: > - Limited to 8GB Ram in total > - Only 4 HDDs > - JBOD support is not great > - Harddrives are never going to sleep (not supported) > > Installing FreeBSD was harder than expected. The machine refused to boot > FreeBSD > from the internal non-raid SATA ports. I didn't try FreeNAS though. > > Also, in case you go with a Microserver - I think all non-xeon models do not > support AES-NI, which will cut the throughput in case you plan to encrypt > your > drives. > > iX-Systems would have been my choice to replace this machine until I found > out > that I can build something myself that suits my needs even better. > > Note, I was looking at the 8 bay model and I would have to add around $280 > for > shipping and tax to Germany. > > I'm now going for this custom build: > - Fractal Design Define R5 > Reason: Silent, enough space for 12 drives > - SuperMicro MBD-A1SAI-2550F-O > Reason: IPMI, ECC, AES-NI, 64GB Ram, Intel NIC, low power consumption > - 4x 8GB Kingson ECC SODIMM > Reason: 16GB modules are not yet available > - Seasonic X-Series Fanless X-400FL 400W passiv > Reason: Fanless -> silent > > The complete order was around 1000? > > That being said, I'm planning to put an older 3ware controller in JBOD mode > in > it and I also have SSDs and drives already. The board has only 6 SATA ports. > But that would be enough for you. > > This might be a little big for you. But maybe it gives you ideas. > > Best Regards, > Stefan >Sorry but need to as do yo want some under powered atom system? or a core i3i7 cpu and 16 Gbs memoery, with 8 GB ports and 6 SATA ports in a small custom build. because thats exactly what we sell and we sell it for less the an XL .... by a few hundred bucs, less the drives. it will easly take 6 3.5 drives and 2 2.5..... IF you really want the specs on a sweet low end system with higher specs then the miniXL and cheaper also then say a super micro or HP box let me know.> _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable at freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe at freebsd.org"