On Feb 7, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
wrote:
>
>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:31 PM, parv <parv at pair.com> wrote:
>>
>>> in message <6CC9FCD8-EB12-4DD1-A76E-8F43C044340F at
ultra-secure.de>,
>>> wrote Rainer Duffner thusly...
>>>>
>>> ...
>>>> I???ve always wanted to try ansible, which looks like it has
>>>> decent support for FreeBSD.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody got experience with that?
>>>
>>> From Dan L (not me) ...
>>>
>>> http://dan.langille.org/2013/12/22/ansible-versus-salt/
>>>
>>>
https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Adlangille%20ansible&src=typd
>>>
>>>
>>> - parv
>>
>>
>> One of the reasons I've been looking at Salt recently is because of
this post in December 2014 by Craig Rodrigues, who set up and maintains the
FreeBSD project's Jenkins cluster:
>>
>>
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-testing/2014-December/000693.html
>>
>> Going by that post, it seems that he is leaning towards using Salt to
manage the cluster.
>>
>> My hope is that if jenkins.freebsd.org is using Salt for infrastructure
management then perhaps FreeBSD support might get a boost in the Salt community.
>
>
>> I'm previously familiar with Puppet and am looking at Salt at the
moment. There are similar concepts between the two, e.g., pillars = hiera;
grains = facter; etc.
>
> Devops is a lovely thing, and I see the appeal, and it?s nice there?s a
community building all manner of software to assist in managing large groups of
servers.
>
> <rant>
> But the trend of developers coming up with cute and/or clever names for
concepts, configuration items, and behaviors simply has to stop. It serves no
purpose but to be cute. One could even call it intentional documentation
obfuscation. It annoys me to no end.
> </rant>
One could say the same about any specialized vernacular used. Why say
"float bowl" or "pilot jet" when talking about carbeurtors
as opposed to a more descriptive term such as "the area in the carb where
fuel accumulates to supply the jets with fuel which is metered by a float
device". Well obviously because it's part of the lexicon of carburetor
work.
Same has to be done for things such as devops tools, even when all they are
doing is combining commonly used things into a single thing.
Knee jerk reaction to being upset that a new term is being said when you
don't know what it is. It's better to control that reaction and look
towards what can be learned from it.
>
> So what is in use for the jenkins cluster, anyone know?
>
> And any totally FreeBSD-centric HOWTOs on either ansible or salt?
>
> Charles
>
>
>> I haven't looked at Ansible very closely, but it seems that Salt
also covers the same ground in its strong focus on orchestration.
>>
>> I think all these systems are very good in their own right, but in the
end community support for your preferred OS is paramount. I'm hoping that
FreeBSD looking at using Salt for the Jenkins cluster might boost FreeBSD
support in the Salt community.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
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