freebsd stable - Jan 2015 - Recursively Deinstalling and Upgrading Packages/Ports without Breaking Dependencies?

Hi,

With portupgrade, I used to use "pkg_deinstall -R" to deinstall a
package and its dependencies while preserving the packages on which
other packages were depending on. With pkgng, the behaviour of
"pkg_deinstall -R" changed and this command is now breaking
dependencies. Is there a new method to safely remove packages recursively?

Also, in the past, it used to be possible to use a "portupgrade -NRra"
command to upgrade all packages and install new dependencies as
required, but the "-N" option is no longer supported in this context
and
portupgrade seems unable to automatically install new dependencies. Is
there an alternate method to achieve this?

It seems much more human time consuming to deinstall and upgrade
packages since these two functionalities disappeared from portupgrade...

Thanks!

On 2015/01/26 23:28, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> With portupgrade, I used to use "pkg_deinstall -R" to deinstall a
> package and its dependencies while preserving the packages on which
> other packages were depending on. With pkgng, the behaviour of
> "pkg_deinstall -R" changed and this command is now breaking
> dependencies. Is there a new method to safely remove packages recursively?
  # pkg delete pkgname
  # pkg autoremove

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On 2015-01-27 01:28, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> With portupgrade, I used to use "pkg_deinstall -R" to deinstall a
> package and its dependencies while preserving the packages on which
> other packages were depending on. With pkgng, the behaviour of
> "pkg_deinstall -R" changed and this command is now breaking
> dependencies. Is there a new method to safely remove packages
> recursively?
Since nothing better was suggested, you should try using
ports-mgmt/pkg_cleanup for this task.
> Also, in the past, it used to be possible to use a "portupgrade
-NRra"
> command to upgrade all packages and install new dependencies as
> required, but the "-N" option is no longer supported in this
context and
> portupgrade seems unable to automatically install new dependencies. Is
> there an alternate method to achieve this?
I think ports-mgmt/portmaster has no problems with installing
new dependencies; "portmaster -a" will upgrade all the installed
ports. I'm not really familiar enough with portupgrade to say
if the exact behavior of it's "-Rr" switch can be replicated
with portmaster though.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:28:53 -0500
Pierre-Luc Drouin <pldrouin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With portupgrade, I used to use "pkg_deinstall -R" to deinstall a
> package and its dependencies while preserving the packages on which
> other packages were depending on. With pkgng, the behaviour of
> "pkg_deinstall -R" changed and this command is now breaking
> dependencies. Is there a new method to safely remove packages recursively?
If menu style (dialogical)  operation is OK, I prefer
ports-mgmt/pkg_rmleaves.
Once deleting any leaf port, it asks for processing new leaf and you
can select what to delete.

> Also, in the past, it used to be possible to use a "portupgrade
-NRra"
> command to upgrade all packages and install new dependencies as
> required, but the "-N" option is no longer supported in this
context and
> portupgrade seems unable to automatically install new dependencies. Is
> there an alternate method to achieve this?
I also am suffering from it.
My nonesense but working workaround is...
 1)Upgrade all possible ones as you do.
 2)Upgrade again with -w -W option added to portupgrade.
 3)Do portversion -vl'<'
 4)Do portsclean -C and compare its output with outputs of the above.
 5)Install missing (only exists in portsclean output) port.
 6)Upgrade again as 1).
 7)If required, repeat 2) - 6) again.

Fixing portupgrade is clearly above me, but looking into build logs, it
seems that package for new dependencies are created, but not installed 
with -p option.

One more to mention. I usually fetch distfiles first, by -aF option.
In this phase, I'm asked OPTIONS dialog for new dependency if any.

> It seems much more human time consuming to deinstall and upgrade
> packages since these two functionalities disappeared from portupgrade...
100% agree with the latter.
> 
> Thanks!
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