Hi,
I created a kernel config for i386/amd64 (should work on -current and
9.x) and a suitable loader.conf which:
- tries to provide as much features as GENERIC (I lost one or two disk
controllers, they are not available as a module... or I didn't find
them)
- incorporates some more features based upon a poll on stable@
(see below)
- loads as much as possible as a module
I've compile-tested them on i386 and amd64, but I didn't had time yet
to give it a try on a spare machine. I may get some time next week to
test (i386 only). It would be nice if someone could help testing:
- compile the kernel
- make _sure_ you have a way to recover the system in case
the new kernel+loader.conf fails
- verify that the example loader.conf contains all devices
which are important for you
- copy the example loader.conf to /boot/loader.conf
- give it a try
You can download from
http://www.Leidinger.net/FreeBSD/current-patches/
The files are
- i386_SMALL
- i386_SMALL_loader.conf
- amd64_SMALL
- amd64_SMALL_loader.conf
I didn't provide direct links for eqch one on purpose. If you do not
know how to recover a system with an unsuitable loader.conf, don't
give this a try (you could check a diff between GENERIC and SMALL, and
make sure all removed devices which are imporant for you are in the
loader.conf). They should work on -current and on 9.x, for 8.x I'm not
sure if it woll work without removing some stuff (GENERIC on 8.x comes
without some more debugging options, make sure you don't get surprised
by them, but those may not be the only differences).
I didn't use the name MODULAR on purpose, I've chosen a name where the
first letter does not yet exist in the kernel config directory, to
make tab-completion more easy. If you are not happy with the name,
keep your opinion for yourself please, until after you tested this on
a (maybe virtual) system.
The loader.conf was generated with a script from a diff between
GENERIC and SMALL, if there's a name mismatch between the config-name
and the module-name, the script may have missed the module (I added
some missing sound modules, but I may have overlooked something). You
better double-check before giving it a try. The loader.conf is also
supposed to disable some features (at the end of the file) which are
new compared to what is in GENERIC, if the particular feature could
cause a change in behavior.
The new stuff in the kernel config compared to GENERIC is (in order of
number of requests from users):
- IPSEC (+ device enc + IPSEC_NAT_T)
- ALTQ
- SW_WATCHDOG
- QUOTA
- IPSTEALTH (disabled in loader.conf)
- IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (touches every packet, power users which need
a bigger PPS but not this feature can recompile the kernel,
discussed with julian@)
- FLOWTABLE (disabled in loader.conf)
- BPF_JITTER
In the poll there where some more options requested, but most of them
can be handled via the loader or sysctl (e.g. the firewalls can be
loaded as modules). For some of them I added some comments at the end
of the SMALL config to make it more easy to find the correct way of
configuring them. Doc-committers may want to have a look, maybe
there's an opportunity to improve existing documentation.
I'm interested in success reports, failure reports, and reports about
missing stuff in loader.conf (mainly compared to the devices available
in GENERIC, but missing stuff which could help getting a system
installed and booted is welcome even if what you propose is not in
GENERIC).
Bye,
Alexander.
--
http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7
http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137
Sorry, but for loader.conf you need use 'load' instead of 'enable' sed -e "s/enable/load/" loader.conf -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/CFT-modular-kernel-config-tp5502195p5504219.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 21. Feb 2012, at 13:35 , Alexander Leidinger wrote:> You can download from > http://www.Leidinger.net/FreeBSD/current-patches/ > The files are > - i386_SMALL > - i386_SMALL_loader.conf > - amd64_SMALL > - amd64_SMALL_loader.confI only looked at the laoder.conf for amd64 and the only comment I have is that I do not have the time to wait minutes for all individual modules to be loaded. This is going to be really bad for boot time.> The new stuff in the kernel config compared to GENERIC is (in order of number of requests from users): > - IPSEC (+ device enc + IPSEC_NAT_T)You cannot ship that on by default for non-tecnical reasons in a kernel. Please do not commit a kernel config that can be booted (no LINT cannot be booted) with these on without consulting appropriate hats upfront.> - ALTQ > - SW_WATCHDOG > - QUOTA > - IPSTEALTH (disabled in loader.conf) > - IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (touches every packet, power users which need > a bigger PPS but not this feature can recompile the kernel, > discussed with julian@) > - FLOWTABLE (disabled in loader.conf)Which is not the same as it's not 100% disabled and will still allocate memory. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! It does not matter how good you are. It matters what good you do!
missing in loader.conf geom_part_gpt_load="YES" geom_label_load="YES" -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/CFT-modular-kernel-config-tp5502195p5508227.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Feb 21, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote:> Hi, > > I created a kernel config for i386/amd64 (should work on -current and 9.x) and a suitable loader.conf which: > - tries to provide as much features as GENERIC (I lost one or two disk > controllers, they are not available as a module... or I didn't find > them) > - incorporates some more features based upon a poll on stable@ > (see below) > - loads as much as possible as a module > > I've compile-tested them on i386 and amd64, but I didn't had time yet to give it a try on a spare machine. I may get some time next week to test (i386 only). It would be nice if someone could help testing: > - compile the kernel > - make _sure_ you have a way to recover the system in case > the new kernel+loader.conf fails > - verify that the example loader.conf contains all devices > which are important for you > - copy the example loader.conf to /boot/loader.conf > - give it a try > > You can download from > http://www.Leidinger.net/FreeBSD/current-patches/ > The files are > - i386_SMALL > - i386_SMALL_loader.conf > - amd64_SMALL > - amd64_SMALL_loader.conf > I didn't provide direct links for eqch one on purpose. If you do not know how to recover a system with an unsuitable loader.conf, don't give this a try (you could check a diff between GENERIC and SMALL, and make sure all removed devices which are imporant for you are in the loader.conf). They should work on -current and on 9.x, for 8.x I'm not sure if it woll work without removing some stuff (GENERIC on 8.x comes without some more debugging options, make sure you don't get surprised by them, but those may not be the only differences). > > I didn't use the name MODULAR on purpose, I've chosen a name where the first letter does not yet exist in the kernel config directory, to make tab-completion more easy. If you are not happy with the name, keep your opinion for yourself please, until after you tested this on a (maybe virtual) system. > > The loader.conf was generated with a script from a diff between GENERIC and SMALL, if there's a name mismatch between the config-name and the module-name, the script may have missed the module (I added some missing sound modules, but I may have overlooked something). You better double-check before giving it a try. The loader.conf is also supposed to disable some features (at the end of the file) which are new compared to what is in GENERIC, if the particular feature could cause a change in behavior. > > The new stuff in the kernel config compared to GENERIC is (in order of number of requests from users): > - IPSEC (+ device enc + IPSEC_NAT_T) > - ALTQ > - SW_WATCHDOG > - QUOTA > - IPSTEALTH (disabled in loader.conf) > - IPFIREWALL_FORWARD (touches every packet, power users which need > a bigger PPS but not this feature can recompile the kernel, > discussed with julian@) > - FLOWTABLE (disabled in loader.conf) > - BPF_JITTER > > In the poll there where some more options requested, but most of them can be handled via the loader or sysctl (e.g. the firewalls can be loaded as modules). For some of them I added some comments at the end of the SMALL config to make it more easy to find the correct way of configuring them. Doc-committers may want to have a look, maybe there's an opportunity to improve existing documentation. > > I'm interested in success reports, failure reports, and reports about missing stuff in loader.conf (mainly compared to the devices available in GENERIC, but missing stuff which could help getting a system installed and booted is welcome even if what you propose is not in GENERIC). > > Bye, > Alexander. > > -- > > http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 > http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 >Just an idea : Ship FreeBSD with all the kernel object files (even compile different versions of them, let's say networking with IPFORWARD and networking without), and then let the user relink the kernel with some shell script. This way freebsd-update can binary update the object files, and then relink the users's kernel. This of course will probably need some infrastructure work to make it possible. P.S.: As I said, just an idea off the top of my head :)
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 02:35:37PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:> You can download from > http://www.Leidinger.net/FreeBSD/current-patches/ > The files are > - i386_SMALL > - i386_SMALL_loader.conf > - amd64_SMALL > - amd64_SMALL_loader.confWhere SCSI disk/etc?