Dear folks!
I see threads on the laptop subject, some forums also,
but no clue for cheap lapper with freebsd compatibility.
There is a chance to get mentioned box for about 450
euros, without OS and with specs like this:
Intel Core#2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz, 3MB L2 cache, FSB 800MHz
Intel GS45 Express + Intel ICH9M-Enhanced (chipset)
Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics)
13.3" 1366x768 HD WLED Anti-Glare (screen)
Intel Link 5100 IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi (wifi)
ExpressCard
6-cell Li-lon battery
FreeDos (OS)
I'm aware of something called "optimus" to optimize graphics
and inability to know prior getting laptop home. Someone
already has this laptop? To me it looks like it should work
out of the box.
I tend to like box to be cold and silent. If you have idea
or better laptop in the price range, I'd be eager to know.
Best regards all
Zoran
While NVIDIA provides a FreeBSD driver for their stand-alone video, Optimus is not supported and NVIDIA has stated that they have no plans to support it for Linux or BSD. If you Google "FreeBSD NVIDIA optimus", you will find that not only is it useless other than for Windows, but that it interferes with the main graphics system, usually Intel 3000 which is actually a part of the Sandy Bridge CPU. Since the Intel chip is also still unsupported by FreeBSD, you will be limited to VEDA support which is very limited. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Retired kob6558@gmail.com On Jul 1, 2011 8:04 PM, "Zoran Kolic" <zkolic@sbb.rs> wrote:> Dear folks! > I see threads on the laptop subject, some forums also, > but no clue for cheap lapper with freebsd compatibility. > There is a chance to get mentioned box for about 450 > euros, without OS and with specs like this: > > Intel Core#2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz, 3MB L2 cache, FSB 800MHz > Intel GS45 Express + Intel ICH9M-Enhanced (chipset) > Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) > 13.3" 1366x768 HD WLED Anti-Glare (screen) > Intel Link 5100 IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi (wifi) > ExpressCard > 6-cell Li-lon battery > FreeDos (OS) > > I'm aware of something called "optimus" to optimize graphics > and inability to know prior getting laptop home. Someone > already has this laptop? To me it looks like it should work > out of the box. > I tend to like box to be cold and silent. If you have idea > or better laptop in the price range, I'd be eager to know. > Best regards all > > Zoran > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Zoran Kolic <zkolic@sbb.rs> wrote:> Dear folks! > I see threads on the laptop subject, some forums also, > but no clue for cheap lapper with freebsd compatibility. > There is a chance to get mentioned box for about 450 > euros, without OS and with specs like this: > > Intel Core#2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz, 3MB L2 cache, FSB 800MHz > Intel GS45 Express + Intel ICH9M-Enhanced (chipset) > Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) > 13.3" 1366x768 HD WLED Anti-Glare (screen) > Intel Link 5100 IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi (wifi) > ExpressCard > 6-cell Li-lon battery > FreeDos (OS) > > I'm aware of something called "optimus" to optimize graphics > and inability to know prior getting laptop home. Someone > already has this laptop? To me it looks like it should work > out of the box. > I tend to like box to be cold and silent. If you have idea > or better laptop in the price range, I'd be eager to know. > Best regards all > > Zoran > >For laptops you may check the following site : http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Also check FreeBSD Hardware lists such as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM for hardware compatibility issues , for example , search Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) , and other chips . It is NOT possible to know in advance without any prior knowledge whether a computer is working with FreeDOS will work with FreeBSD because these are very different systems . Therefore my idea is to avoid FreeDOS loaded computers if it is to be used for FreeBSD or Linux . The producer/seller can install FreeBSD or Linux without cost ( if the computer is NOT a DOS computer , i.e. , FreeBSD ( Unix ) , Linux can work on it ) . Over the years , always my suggestion to my friends is to select at least a computer having Linux installed . If there is Linux on it and it is working it is very likely that it will work with FreeBSD . If you can find a laptop as FreeBSD is installed , it is much better than any other ones . Another way is to test the computer for FreeBSD is to start it with a FreeBSD LiveCD ( This will not show the FreeBSD can be installed and run successfully . Over time , some programs may crash due to missing circuit parts because such parts are NOT included into the circuits because they are NOT necessary for DOS or its children . With a few run , this point can not be understood without applying test programs ( which I do NOT know any such program name ) . Such a feature may turn your computer unusable for you with FreeBSD or Linux over time when it occurs under a required program . ) . As a summary , to such Live CD checks , do NOT rely on much , actually ignore such pseudo-tests . For other BSD related GUI Live CD distributions , you may check the following site : http://www.livebsd.org/ Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Thanks for answering my question.> Since the Intel chip is also still unsupported by FreeBSD, you will be > limited to VEDA support which is very limited.I found that dell sells ubuntu on mentioned laptop in some parts of the globe. Further, my old laptop (HP nx9020) has intel chip and works under intel driver. I need simple 2d, no frills. Does newer chip run for plain graphics at all? No acceleration? Fine. I don't use it neither on my NVIDIA GeForce 6200 card with "nv" driver.> For laptops you may check the following site : > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/Old and no newer machines on the site.> Also check FreeBSD Hardware lists such as > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTMIntel 5100 wifi should work with "device iwn5000fw" or "5150"?> It is NOT possible to know in advance without any prior knowledge whether a > computer is working with FreeDOS will work with FreeBSD because these are > very different systems .It is sold with freedos to be cheap enough. I appreciate that.> The producer/seller can install FreeBSD or Linux without costNot where I live. When I bought my previous laptop, live cd was the guide if it worked at all. It is a matter of "buy it as it is" now. More, no cd on latitude 13, which is fine, since it keeps it at 3 lb. My two fears are acpi and graphics 4500mhd. I found links that show 4500 supported. http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/subnotebooks-once-again-td4197868.html If the list thinks I should wait, it is a metter of adding the code as on this link: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-21852.html Best regards all Zoran
On Jul 2, 2011 4:16 AM, "Zoran Kolic" <zkolic@sbb.rs> wrote:> > Thanks for answering my question. > > > Since the Intel chip is also still unsupported by FreeBSD, you will be > > limited to VEDA support which is very limited. > > I found that dell sells ubuntu on mentioned laptop in some parts > of the globe. Further, my old laptop (HP nx9020) has intel chip > and works under intel driver. I need simple 2d, no frills. Does > newer chip run for plain graphics at all? No acceleration? Fine.Linux has the required GEM/KMS support, but FreeBSD does not. It is being worked on, but I don't think it's near ready.> I don't use it neither on my NVIDIA GeForce 6200 card with "nv" > driver.The Optimus is a GPU designed in conjunction with Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs which have integrated Intel 5000 graphics. Optimus acts as an external accelerator using the Intel frame buffer. It will not work with any NVIDIA driver; nv, the NVIDIA binary driver, or the nouveau driver. NVIDIA has been clear that there is no plan to ever support Optimus on non-Windows systems.> > For laptops you may check the following site : > > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ > > Old and no newer machines on the site. > > > Also check FreeBSD Hardware lists such as > >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM> > Intel 5100 wifi should work with "device iwn5000fw" or "5150"? > > > It is NOT possible to know in advance without any prior knowledgewhether a> > computer is working with FreeDOS will work with FreeBSD because theseare> > very different systems . > > It is sold with freedos to be cheap enough. I appreciate that. > > > The producer/seller can install FreeBSD or Linux without cost > > Not where I live. When I bought my previous laptop, live cd was the > guide if it worked at all. It is a matter of "buy it as it is" now. > More, no cd on latitude 13, which is fine, since it keeps it at > 3 lb. > > My two fears are acpi and graphics 4500mhd. I found links that show > 4500 supported. >http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/subnotebooks-once-again-td4197868.html> If the list thinks I should wait, it is a metter of adding the code > as on this link: > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-21852.htmlIf it is a 4500, you will have at least minimal graphics support. You should be able to disable the NVIDIA daughter card on BIOS, but I would not want to guarantee it. Good luck! R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Retired kob6558@gmail.com
> Intel Core#2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz, 3MB L2 cache, FSB 800MHz > Intel GS45 Express + Intel ICH9M-Enhanced (chipset) > Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) > Intel Link 5100 IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi (wifi)Hi, I have a laptop with GM45 with GMA 4500 MHD graphics, also a WiFi card 5100 and all taht hardware works like a charm, with i915.ko driver for GMA 4500 and if_iwn.ko for the wireless 5100 chip. Regards, vermaden ---------------------------------------------------------- Kredyt gotowkowy nr 1! Teraz do 150 000zl bez zaswiadczen! http://linkint.pl/f29e1