I noticed that apache on RELENG_8 and RELENG_7 shows up with output I cant seem to understand from sockstat -l and netstat -naW On RELENG_7, sockstat -l makes sense to me .... www httpd 83005 4 tcp4 *:443 *:* www httpd 82217 3 tcp4 *:80 *:* www httpd 82217 4 tcp4 *:443 *:* www httpd 38942 3 tcp4 *:80 *:* www httpd 38942 4 tcp4 *:443 *:* root httpd 1169 3 tcp4 *:80 *:* root httpd 1169 4 tcp4 *:443 *:* various processes listening on all bound IP addresses on ports 80 and 443. On RELENG_8 however, it shows up with an extra entry (at the end) www httpd 29005 4 tcp4 *:* *:* www httpd 29004 3 tcp4 6 *:80 *:* www httpd 29004 4 tcp4 *:* *:* www httpd 29003 3 tcp4 6 *:80 *:* www httpd 29003 4 tcp4 *:* *:* www httpd 66731 3 tcp4 6 *:80 *:* www httpd 66731 4 tcp4 *:* *:* root httpd 72197 3 tcp4 6 *:80 *:* root httpd 72197 4 tcp4 *:* *:* *:80 makes sense to me... process is listening on all IPs for port 80. What does *:* mean then ? Netstat gives a slightly different version of it Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 *.1984 *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.* *.* CLOSED tcp46 0 0 *.80 *.* LISTEN state closed ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike