An observation... pre-8.0, "who am i" always returned the owner of the terminal device, regardless what you might have done with with "su". With 8.0, it returns the id of the user you've changed to. Example: ### 7.1 system [cowens@jakob ~]$ who am i cowens ttyp0 Jan 6 07:31 (169.254.222.1) [cowens@jakob ~]$ su Password: [root@jakob /home/cowens]# who am i cowens ttyp0 Jan 6 07:31 (169.254.222.1) ### 8.0 system [cowens@newercastle ~]$ who am i cowens 0 Jan 7 17:47 [cowens@newercastle ~]$ su [root@newercastle /home/cowens]# who am i root 0 Jan 7 17:47 The alternative syntax ("who -m") gives same result. The who(1) man page still states that both forms are supposed to give info about the "terminal attached to standard input," which, if I look with "w", it looks as I'd expect: [root@newercastle /home/cowens]# w 5:47PM up 1 day, 1 min, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT root v0 - 17Dec09 21days -bash (bash) cowens pts/0 169.254.222.1 5:47PM - w Am I missing something, or do we have a bug here? (I looked but can't find any existing threads about this issue). I'm guessing that the symptom here results somehow from the introduction of pts(4). Tnx -- Charles Owens Great Bay Software, Inc.