iH, Been updating my src via svn and following stable/8. Looking at the UPDATING file, it does not mention '8.0-RELEASE' Did it just not make it in there yet? http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/stable/8/UPDATING?view=markup vs. http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/release/8.0.0/UPDATING?view=markup It just confused me for awhile after I did a 'svn up' and did not see the release notes... [for the 7.X series, both stable/ and release/ mention the release in UPDATING] ]Peter[