I haven't had time to investigate, but after installing 6.4RC1 on a machine I've been using with 6.3 for a few months, it installs painlessly but on the first and subsequent reboots you see BTX Loader 1.00 blah blah blah ... Loading /boot/defaults/loader.con \ At this point you have a hard refreeze -- no keyboard control, however I can reboot it from the Phantom card. System: Rackable C2004, dual Intel 2.66 processors, 4gb RAM, disk drive on built in SCSI port Absolutely nothing special, boots and runs 6.2 and 6.3 without a flaw. I'll have more time to investigate on Friday. Anything specific that would be more or less useful to debug in particular? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness
On Thursday 23 October 2008 01:32:27 Jo Rhett wrote:> I haven't had time to investigate, but after installing 6.4RC1 on a > machine I've been using with 6.3 for a few months, it installs > painlessly but on the first and subsequent reboots you see > > BTX Loader 1.00 blah blah blah > ... > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.con > \ > > At this point you have a hard refreeze -- no keyboard control, however > I can reboot it from the Phantom card. > > System: Rackable C2004, dual Intel 2.66 processors, 4gb RAM, disk > drive on built in SCSI port > > Absolutely nothing special, boots and runs 6.2 and 6.3 without a flaw. > > I'll have more time to investigate on Friday. Anything specific that > would be more or less useful to debug in particular?I did not investigate on this issue too much, but there is an workaround - copy older /boot/loader over newer one. In my case, I am rebuilding whole world often, and now /boot/loader seems to not build correctly for me. Older one is ~ 250 kB, rebuilt will be ~ 185 kB, and freezes. In your case, you would write old /boot/loader from 6.3 over new installed with 6.4RC1 and it will boot normally again. I know it is only workaround, but it's quick and easy, and I have not too much time to investigate any further (not to mention I have no idea what to look for and where). Regards, Milan
On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote:> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote: >> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to boot >> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less. >> >> /boot.config: -Dh >> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory >> >> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >> (root@dessler.cse.b >> >> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single char >> more: >> (root@dessler.cse.bu > > This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to > output a > character. One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the > following: > > dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out > dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out > > Then place those files some place I can fetch them.Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/ FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot prompt. I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt, with the fat freebsd ascii art. No keyboard presses are observed here. This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation CD too. No problems with 6.2 or 6.3 -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness
Jo Rhett
2008-Nov-20 09:34 UTC
Want one of the affected systems for your lab? (Was: 6.4 RC1 locks up solid on first reboot)
John, I can ship you one of these machines for your own testing if you like. Or send me a public key and I can give you SSH access to the console serial port, whichever would be easiest for you to get what you need. Let me know how I can help. On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:> On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote: >>> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to >>> boot >>> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less. >>> >>> /boot.config: -Dh >>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >>> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >>> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >>> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >>> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory >>> >>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >>> (root@dessler.cse.b >>> >>> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single char >>> more: >>> (root@dessler.cse.bu >> >> This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to >> output a >> character. One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the >> following: >> >> dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out >> dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out >> >> Then place those files some place I can fetch them. > > Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/ > > FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot > prompt. I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt, > with the fat freebsd ascii art. No keyboard presses are observed > here. This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation > CD too. > > No problems with 6.2 or 6.3 > > -- > Jo Rhett > Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source > and other randomness > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > "
Jo Rhett
2008-Nov-24 13:39 UTC
Can I get a committer to mark this bug as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ?
This is now filed as PR 129149 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129149 Given the nature of this bug, can I persuade someone to mark this as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ? On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:> On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote: >>> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to >>> boot >>> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less. >>> >>> /boot.config: -Dh >>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >>> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >>> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >>> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >>> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory >>> >>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >>> (root@dessler.cse.b >>> >>> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single char >>> more: >>> (root@dessler.cse.bu >> >> This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to >> output a >> character. One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the >> following: >> >> dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out >> dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out >> >> Then place those files some place I can fetch them. > > Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/ > > FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot > prompt. I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt, > with the fat freebsd ascii art. No keyboard presses are observed > here. This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation > CD too. > > No problems with 6.2 or 6.3 > > -- > Jo Rhett > Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source > and other randomness > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > "
Xin LI
2008-Nov-24 13:52 UTC
Can I get a committer to mark this bug as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jo Rhett wrote:> This is now filed as PR 129149 > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129149 > > Given the nature of this bug, can I persuade someone to mark this as > blocking 6.4-RELEASE ?My wild guess is that this is somehow related to SMP handling since the installation process would install a SMP kernel, but the default CD-ROM kernel is UP for 6.x. Could you please try if you have the same problem with UP kernel? (Copy from LiveCD or something)> On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >> On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >>> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote: >>>> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to boot >>>> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less. >>>> >>>> /boot.config: -Dh >>>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >>>> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >>>> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >>>> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >>>> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory >>>> >>>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >>>> (root@dessler.cse.b >>>> >>>> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single char >>>> more: >>>> (root@dessler.cse.bu >>> >>> This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to output a >>> character. One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the >>> following: >>> >>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out >>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out >>> >>> Then place those files some place I can fetch them. >> >> Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/ >> >> FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot >> prompt. I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt, >> with the fat freebsd ascii art. No keyboard presses are observed >> here. This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation CD >> too. >> >> No problems with 6.2 or 6.3 >> >> -- >> Jo Rhett >> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source >> and other randomness >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"- -- Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkrIc8ACgkQi+vbBBjt66BVUACcDLDK7Ubugt2sto8WKAYfxF0L 93cAoI3bJ/7YcKQeVUmWTO9R2tOCOf6W =dEk9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Jo Rhett
2008-Nov-24 14:12 UTC
Can I get a committer to mark this bug as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ?
So boot from CD, go to LIVE filesystem, mount my root and copy only / boot/kernel? Are there any other modules I should copy, or settings I should change? On Nov 24, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Xin LI wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jo Rhett wrote: >> This is now filed as PR 129149 >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129149 >> >> Given the nature of this bug, can I persuade someone to mark this as >> blocking 6.4-RELEASE ? > > My wild guess is that this is somehow related to SMP handling since > the > installation process would install a SMP kernel, but the default CD- > ROM > kernel is UP for 6.x. Could you please try if you have the same > problem > with UP kernel? (Copy from LiveCD or something) > >> On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >>> On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >>>> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote: >>>>> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to >>>>> boot >>>>> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less. >>>>> >>>>> /boot.config: -Dh >>>>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >>>>> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >>>>> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >>>>> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >>>>> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory >>>>> >>>>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >>>>> (root@dessler.cse.b >>>>> >>>>> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single >>>>> char >>>>> more: >>>>> (root@dessler.cse.bu >>>> >>>> This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to >>>> output a >>>> character. One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the >>>> following: >>>> >>>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out >>>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out >>>> >>>> Then place those files some place I can fetch them. >>> >>> Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/ >>> >>> FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot >>> prompt. I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt, >>> with the fat freebsd ascii art. No keyboard presses are observed >>> here. This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation >>> CD >>> too. >>> >>> No problems with 6.2 or 6.3 >>> >>> -- >>> Jo Rhett >>> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source >>> and other randomness >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>> " >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " > > > - -- > Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/ > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkrIc8ACgkQi+vbBBjt66BVUACcDLDK7Ubugt2sto8WKAYfxF0L > 93cAoI3bJ/7YcKQeVUmWTO9R2tOCOf6W > =dEk9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Xin LI
2008-Nov-24 14:21 UTC
Can I get a committer to mark this bug as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jo Rhett wrote:> So boot from CD, go to LIVE filesystem, mount my root and copy only > /boot/kernel?Yes.> Are there any other modules I should copy, or settings I should change?You should probably overwrite the whole /boot/kernel directory, i.e. rename /boot/kernel to /boot/kernel.old. BTW could you also test if 7.1-PRERELEASE exhibit the same issue?> On Nov 24, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Xin LI wrote: > Jo Rhett wrote: >>>> This is now filed as PR 129149 >>>> >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129149 >>>> >>>> Given the nature of this bug, can I persuade someone to mark this as >>>> blocking 6.4-RELEASE ? > > My wild guess is that this is somehow related to SMP handling since the > installation process would install a SMP kernel, but the default CD-ROM > kernel is UP for 6.x. Could you please try if you have the same problem > with UP kernel? (Copy from LiveCD or something) > >>>> On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >>>>> On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >>>>>> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote: >>>>>>> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to boot >>>>>>> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /boot.config: -Dh >>>>>>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port >>>>>>> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >>>>>>> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >>>>>>> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >>>>>>> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >>>>>>> (root@dessler.cse.b >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single char >>>>>>> more: >>>>>>> (root@dessler.cse.bu >>>>>> >>>>>> This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to >>>>>> output a >>>>>> character. One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the >>>>>> following: >>>>>> >>>>>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out >>>>>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out >>>>>> >>>>>> Then place those files some place I can fetch them. >>>>> >>>>> Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/ >>>>> >>>>> FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot >>>>> prompt. I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt, >>>>> with the fat freebsd ascii art. No keyboard presses are observed >>>>> here. This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation CD >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> No problems with 6.2 or 6.3 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jo Rhett >>>>> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source >>>>> and other randomness >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >- -- Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkrKMoACgkQi+vbBBjt66AARgCbBHYl8WpX4jjoJrRbrKjJUMPg lvsAnRlA6be6C62yQNrmNdLhWbOsCBAF =DiYt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----