I have an Apple MacBook with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (November 2007 edition, cf. the Wikipedia article for specifications), and I have been considering switching to one of the free UNIX clones for some time now. I understand that Ubuntu GNU/Linux is supposed to work well on this kind of machine, but I would rather use some variant of BSD if that is a viable alternative. I would therefore like to ask you whether anyone here has any experience with FreeBSD, either 7.0-RELEASE or any other version, that they would like to share so I might know what to expect if I choose to go through with this. I have some time on my hands the next couple of weeks, so I am prepared to spend some days tweaking things to work if it is worth the effort, but if it isn't, I might as well take Ubuntu for a spin or do a clean install of Mac OS X. Best regards Eirik W. Svela OpenPGP key ID 0x46DCA4C4
On Oct 4, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Eirik Wix?e Svela wrote:> I have an Apple MacBook with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (November > 2007 edition, cf. the Wikipedia article for specifications), and I > have > been considering switching to one of the free UNIX clones for some > time > now.Why?> I understand that Ubuntu GNU/Linux is supposed to work well on this > kind of machine, but I would rather use some variant of BSD if that > is a > viable alternative.MacOS X *is* a genuine recognized variant of BSD.> I would therefore like to ask you whether anyone here has any > experience > with FreeBSD, either 7.0-RELEASE or any other version, that they would > like to share so I might know what to expect if I choose to go through > with this. I have some time on my hands the next couple of weeks, so I > am prepared to spend some days tweaking things to work if it is worth > the effort, but if it isn't, I might as well take Ubuntu for a spin or > do a clean install of Mac OS X.You sound as if you just got the machine and haven't given MacOS X a chance. Give MacOS X a chance. Download (if its not on your MacOS X install DVD) X Code, and Apple X11. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net =======================================================================Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
>> I have an Apple MacBook with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (November >> 2007 edition, cf. the Wikipedia article for specifications), and I have >> been considering switching to one of the free UNIX clones for some time >> now. > > Why?Might I suggest: DRM, Vendor lock-in, $128 upgrade every 2 years, and crippled debugging tools.
On 4 Oct 2008, at 21:00, Eirik Wix?e Svela wrote:> I have an Apple MacBook with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (November > 2007 edition, cf. the Wikipedia article for specifications), and I > have > been considering switching to one of the free UNIX clones for some > time > now. I understand that Ubuntu GNU/Linux is supposed to work well on > this > kind of machine, but I would rather use some variant of BSD if that > is a > viable alternative.Only used FreeBSD (and several Linux variations and Windows varieties) on my Macbook Pro, but none of these as the boot operating system. All of these do however run as expected in a virtual environment like Parallels.> I would therefore like to ask you whether anyone here has any > experience > with FreeBSD, either 7.0-RELEASE or any other version, that they would > like to share so I might know what to expect if I choose to go through > with this. I have some time on my hands the next couple of weeks, so I > am prepared to spend some days tweaking things to work if it is worth > the effort, but if it isn't, I might as well take Ubuntu for a spin or > do a clean install of Mac OS X. > > Best regards > Eirik W. Svela > OpenPGP key ID 0x46DCA4C4 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > "Ciao, Hans.
Eirik Wix?e Svela <eirik@nynorsk.no> writes:> I have an Apple MacBook with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (November > 2007 edition, cf. the Wikipedia article for specifications), and I have > been considering switching to one of the free UNIX clones for some time > now. I understand that Ubuntu GNU/Linux is supposed to work well on this > kind of machine, but I would rather use some variant of BSD if that is a > viable alternative.I have a MacBook running FreeBSD. IIRC I bought it in January 2008 so it's probably the same model as yours.> I would therefore like to ask you whether anyone here has any experience > with FreeBSD, either 7.0-RELEASE or any other version, that they would > like to share so I might know what to expect if I choose to go through > with this. I have some time on my hands the next couple of weeks, so I > am prepared to spend some days tweaking things to work if it is worth > the effort, but if it isn't, I might as well take Ubuntu for a spin or > do a clean install of Mac OS X.I have made a few notes here: http://borderworlds.dk/notes/freebsd-macbook.html I just used boot camp and did a pretty standard install. I would recommend installing a 7.1-BETA release to have the wired ethernet working from the beginning. -- Christian Laursen
Hi. I think (IMHO) you can try some desktop orientated linux distro (ubunutu; kubuntu) or freebsd based PC-BSD desktop. If you are more experienced user and know what you`re doing then you can take some server orientated stuff and install it also as desktop. In fact it depends on your needs and what you really want to get from your box. Best Regards, Edmunds ============================freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org wrote: Message: 10 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:25:39 +0200 From: Eirik Wix?e Svela <eirik@nynorsk.no> Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD a suitable choice for a MacBook? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <48E8A433.40108@nynorsk.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you for your reply, David. You seem to be answering a question I did not ask, but allow me to respond briefly in any case: I have been using the operating system since January, and I am full aware of its line of inheritance as well as the UNIX 03 certification, and I have no major beef with it for everyday purposes. However, for all its ease of use and outstanding graphical user interface, I still find that its crossbred nature makes for a somewhat untidy system when dealing with nitty-gritty UNIX tasks such as enabling and configuring the firewall, configuring the system for maximum security (the default file permissions allow everyone to watch what's inside everyone else's home directories, for instance), installing an application by hand and so on. I also much prefer the free software movement and its principles to Apple and its "principles". Now, could someone answer my original question? Regards
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:00:48 +0200 > From: Eirik Wix?e Svela <eirik@nynorsk.no> > Subject: Is FreeBSD a suitable choice for a MacBook? > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <48E7BD60.80001@nynorsk.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I have an Apple MacBook with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (November > 2007 edition, cf. the Wikipedia article for specifications), and I have > been considering switching to one of the free UNIX clones for some time > now. I understand that Ubuntu GNU/Linux is supposed to work well on this > kind of machine, but I would rather use some variant of BSD if that is a > viable alternative. > > I would therefore like to ask you whether anyone here has any experience > with FreeBSD, either 7.0-RELEASE or any other version, that they would > like to share so I might know what to expect if I choose to go through > with this. I have some time on my hands the next couple of weeks, so I > am prepared to spend some days tweaking things to work if it is worth > the effort, but if it isn't, I might as well take Ubuntu for a spin or > do a clean install of Mac OS X. > > Best regards > Eirik W. Svela >On my Macbook, I ran and used Ubuntu and FreeBSD in the days of 6.1 for a while, but the big problem is power management. On a laptop that is a killer... Standby is unreliable, breaks, and basically means that if you're on the move you have to shutdown and boot every time you want to put your laptop away. Is that what you really want? Say goodbye to your battery life too. Apart from that, all the cool parts of FreeBSD are just as good on it. I just found it's far better on my PC. -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf)