Hi! 7.0-RELEASE images came out with FIVE disks - disc 1 to 3 and separate LiveFS and docs. What do they contain? I can guess that 2 and 3 are pure packages so I don't need to download them if I want to compile out from ports. And in previous releases I had to download the disc1 ONLY as it had LiveFS also - a very good improvement since 4.x times where disc2 with only LiveFS, mostly useless all the time, took separate disk. But now release announcement says that for LiveFS I need TWO disks - both disc1 and livefs disk. WHY? Why not to pack they both to a single disc1, this was very comfortable. I suspect this separation is due to sizes od docs etc. - but CD drives can now handle even 700 MBs of data, and disc1 for i386 occupies only 509M, though disc2 is 694M, yes. May be it is desirable to compress docs and other base system parts with bzip2 -9 instead of gzip? P.S. And may be it is good also to resurrect miniinst disk for Depenguinator project? :) -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Moderator of RU.ANTI-ECOLOGY][FreeBSD][http://antigreen.org][LJ:/nuclight]
> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.orgThis sybject has nothing to do with stable@.> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.orgPosting to 2 FreeBSD lists is deprecated. hackers@ is for releases. Attempting to shrink to one list, this posted with: To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org bcc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Vadim Goncharov wrote:> Hi! > > 7.0-RELEASE images came out with FIVE disks - disc 1 to 3 and separate LiveFS > and docs. What do they contain? I can guess that 2 and 3 are pure packages so > I don't need to download them if I want to compile out from ports. And in > previous releases I had to download the disc1 ONLY as it had LiveFS also - > a very good improvement since 4.x times where disc2 with only LiveFS, mostly > useless all the time, took separate disk. > > But now release announcement says that for LiveFS I need TWO disks - both > disc1 and livefs disk. WHY? Why not to pack they both to a single disc1, > this was very comfortable. > > I suspect this separation is due to sizes od docs etc. - but CD drives can now > handle even 700 MBs of data, and disc1 for i386 occupies only 509M, though > disc2 is 694M, yes. > > May be it is desirable to compress docs and other base system parts with > bzip2 -9 instead of gzip? > > P.S. And may be it is good also to resurrect miniinst disk for > Depenguinator project? :)> > -- > WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru > [Moderator of RU.ANTI-ECOLOGY][FreeBSD][http://antigreen.org][LJ:/nuclight] > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML & Base64 is spam.
07.03.08 @ 16:10 Julian H. Stacey wrote:>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > This sybject has nothing to do with stable@.It has because 6.3-RELEASE is also affected with docs issue, and future releases 6.4 and 7.1 will be in both branches, as ell as 8.0.>> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > Posting to 2 FreeBSD lists is deprecated. > hackers@ is for releases.Why? Looks like not the place for official staff. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov
Vadim Goncharov wrote:> Hi! > > 7.0-RELEASE images came out with FIVE disks - disc 1 to 3 and separate LiveFS > and docs. What do they contain? I can guess that 2 and 3 are pure packages so > I don't need to download them if I want to compile out from ports. And in > previous releases I had to download the disc1 ONLY as it had LiveFS also - > a very good improvement since 4.x times where disc2 with only LiveFS, mostly > useless all the time, took separate disk. > > But now release announcement says that for LiveFS I need TWO disks - both > disc1 and livefs disk. WHY? Why not to pack they both to a single disc1, > this was very comfortable.Well, technically, you don't need both discs. LiveFS CD is bootable. Regarding to the other question, it was split because, with the introduction of new userland tools, disc1 grew to a size that did not fit on one CDROM. Regards. -- Rui Paulo
On Mar 7, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Vadim Goncharov wrote:> But now release announcement says that for LiveFS I need TWO disks - > both > disc1 and livefs disk. WHY? Why not to pack they both to a single > disc1, > this was very comfortable.I discovered that the livefs disk is bootable and can do a full install of freebsd as well. there just are no packages on it, which suits me just fine. this is the disk i will keep handy for new installs + emergency repairs.
Vadim Goncharov wrote:
> 7.0-RELEASE images came out with FIVE disks - disc 1 to 3 and separate
LiveFS
> and docs. What do they contain?
- The small "bootonly" CD contains only sysinstall.
It can be used if you want to install from the network.
- Disk 1 contains everything you need to install the base
FreeBSD system, as well as a few useful packages.
- Disk 2 and 3 just contain more packages.
- The "docs" CD only contains documentation: Handbook,
FAQ and articles in various languages. These are also
available online, so there's rarely a need to download
this CD.
- The "livefs" CD contains the usual "fixit" live file
system. It is bootable on its own, so you do _not_ need
to download disk1 if you only want the livefs CD.
By the way, you can combine disk1 and the livefs image into
a single ISO image and write it onto a DVD-R. It won't fit
on a CD-R disk, though, and that's the reason why the
lifefs went onto a separate ISO image.
> I suspect this separation is due to sizes od docs etc. - but CD drives can
now
> handle even 700 MBs of data, and disc1 for i386 occupies only 509M, though
> disc2 is 694M, yes.
As you can see, disk1 + livefs is larger than 700 MB.
The docs CD is separate anyway, which is a good thing
because many people won't need it.
> May be it is desirable to compress docs and other base system parts with
> bzip2 -9 instead of gzip?
What exactly would you propose to compress? Compressing
the docs isn't a good idea, because then you wouldn't be
able to read them directly from the CD. Also, as mentioned
above, the docs are already on a separate CD.
> P.S. And may be it is good also to resurrect miniinst disk for
> Depenguinator project? :)
Do you mean the "bootonly" CD? It's already there.
Best regards
Oliver
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