freebsd stable - Jan 2008 - NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf

Hello!

In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as 
NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system 
during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not 
listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm 
specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL. With earlier FreeBSD versions I 
added this to make.conf after installing Postfix, thinking that this way 
installworld won't overwrite my Postfix port. Is this no longer necessary?

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Toomas Aas

>Hello!
>In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as 
>NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the
system 
>during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are
not 
>listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm 
>specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL. With earlier FreeBSD versions I
>added this to make.conf after installing Postfix, thinking that this
way 
>installworld won't overwrite my Postfix port. Is this no longer
necessary?
>
>-- 
>Toomas Aas

They are not gone they moved to /etc/src.conf
man src.conf tells you more 

Regards
Johan Hendriks
Double L Automatisering

> In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as 
> NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system 
> during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone?
They turned into 'WITHOUT_XXX'
> I'm specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL.
WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true

:-)

-pete.

>Hello!
>In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as 
>NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the
system 
>during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are
not 
>listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm 
>specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL. With earlier FreeBSD versions I
>added this to make.conf after installing Postfix, thinking that this
way 
>installworld won't overwrite my Postfix port. Is this no longer
necessary?
>-- 
>Toomas Aas
Secondly 
Even if you do not set WITHOUT_SENDMAIL it will never overwrite your
postfix install.
Sendmail is build within the base system and there for is installed in
/bin and /sbin and postfix
Will be build within /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin with the file
/etc/mailer.conf you can 
point to another mailer like postfix, exin ot qmail.

Regards,
Johan Hendriks
Double L Automatisering

On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:03:13PM +0200, Toomas Aas
wrote:
> In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as 
> NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system 
> during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not
> listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm 
> specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL. With earlier FreeBSD versions I 
> added this to make.conf after installing Postfix, thinking that this way 
> installworld won't overwrite my Postfix port. Is this no longer
necessary?
Regarding NO_SENDMAIL and NO_IPFILER:

Both of these appear to have been renamed: WITHOUT_SENDMAIL and
WITHOUT_IPFILTER.  You can poke around at things in
src/tools/build/options/ and see what's what.

However, I'm not sure how these play a role with world right now.  I'm
not entirely familiar with how (if at all) src/tools/build/options/
actually controls buildworld/isntallworld features.  Someone else will
have to comment on that.

Regarding concerns over mailer selection:

Which mailer gets used for commands like sendmail(8), newaliases(1),
mailq(8) and others is enitrely based on /etc/mail/mailer.conf.  The
actual binaries on FreeBSD of /usr/sbin/sendmail, /usr/bin/newaliases,
etc. are all wrappers that read /etc/mail/mailer.conf to determine what
program to actually execute.

So it's "generally safe" to have both sendmail (the MTA/MDA) from
the
base system installed at the same time as postfix.

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Toomas Aas wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as 
> NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the 
> system during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? 
There is a cross-reference to src.conf(5) at the end of make.conf(5), 
but IMO the connection needs to be made more explicit. Anyone want to 
take that on? This should also go in the release notes if it's not already.

Doug

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