With the announcement of 6.3 and with 7.0 looking like it wont be
far behind I'd interested to hear what people thought of the relative
benefits of each where?
I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there
any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there
any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues?
Regards
Steve
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Steven Hartland wrote:> With the announcement of 6.3 and with 7.0 looking like it wont be far > behind I'd interested to hear what people thought of the relative > benefits of each where? > > I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there > any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there > any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues?7.0 is relatively new, while 6.3 would be a more conservative choice of release if you have a lot of binaries running on previous release because there are less changes. However, I think it's good to use 7.0 as a development platform for future applications as there are a lot of performance/stability/feature additions that will never be simply MFC'ed because we try hard to maintain API/ABI stability for -STABLE branches. Cheers, - -- Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHkRmRi+vbBBjt66ARAmaPAKCA7bJU2854yjBNNK0vkkkn9xy5kwCdGpLN tqEIud77ODnRq3zB0QKYkrc=N/o9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
One word: ZFS! It's awesome. -Joe Steven Hartland wrote:> With the announcement of 6.3 and with 7.0 looking like it wont be > far behind I'd interested to hear what people thought of the relative > benefits of each where? > > I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there > any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there > any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues? > > Regards > Steve > > ===============================================> This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. > > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 > or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
At 04:11 PM 1/18/2008, Steven Hartland wrote:>I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there >any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there >any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues?I think it depends what apps you run, what drivers you rely on. The less esoteric your hardware is, the better the chances are that things will work well (eg. em nics vs nfe or tl etc etc). Our production experiences with 7 have been good so far. I just did a rather busy customer mail server this morning and so far so good. I migrated it from 6.3 to 7 and am just finishing the portupgrade process. We have also been running a 7.x box in our spam/virus scanning cluster since late Nov 2007 and no issues there either. We havent done any benchmarks to see if its faster than the 6.x boxes, but its certainly stable so far and seems to at least keep up to the other boxes. I am also testing a core2 and quad core box with 8 gig of RAM on a 4 port Areca controller that will replace a 6.2 postgresql server next week some time. Just doing some benchmarking/testing of that now and hope to have RELENG_7 64bit deployed next week on it if all goes as planned. ---Mike
> I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there > any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there > any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues?7 is great - very stable, fast, includes ZFS, has gcc 4.0 and is excellent in my opinion. I have moved all our production systems to the pre-release using ULE (after thorough testing) and havent regretted it once. -pete.
Steven Hartland wrote:> With the announcement of 6.3 and with 7.0 looking like it wont be far > behind I'd interested to hear what people thought of the relative > benefits of each where? > > I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there > any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there > any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues? > > Regards > SteveI really like FreeBSD 7.x, except for one issue. On my Dell Lattitude D800 laptop, xorg freezes the computer solid on starting or stopping. (But I guess I like the advantages of 7.x to the extent that I haven't gone back to 6.x). Stephen
Hello, please could you try to make large (hundred of GB) ext2 volume with e2fsprogs and copy large amount of data to it? On amd64 SMP (two cores) RELENG_7_0 it should lead to unrecoverable panic or scrolling strings "ext2_new_block: bit already set for block %d". On 6.2-STABLE there is no problem with linux partitions. Jakub Siroky On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:48:28 -0500 Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> wrote:> At 04:11 PM 1/18/2008, Steven Hartland wrote: > >I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there > >any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there > >any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues? > > I think it depends what apps you run, what drivers you rely on. The > less esoteric your hardware is, the better the chances are that > things will work well (eg. em nics vs nfe or tl etc etc). > > Our production experiences with 7 have been good so far. I just did a > rather busy customer mail server this morning and so far so good. I > migrated it from 6.3 to 7 and am just finishing the portupgrade > process. We have also been running a 7.x box in our spam/virus > scanning cluster since late Nov 2007 and no issues there either. We > havent done any benchmarks to see if its faster than the 6.x boxes, > but its certainly stable so far and seems to at least keep up to the > other boxes. > > I am also testing a core2 and quad core box with 8 gig of RAM on a 4 > port Areca controller that will replace a 6.2 postgresql server next > week some time. Just doing some benchmarking/testing of that now and > hope to have RELENG_7 64bit deployed next week on it if all goes as planned. > > ---Mike > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
At 05:06 PM 1/18/2008, Jakub Siroky wrote:>Hello, please could you try to make large (hundred of GB) ext2 volume withI dont use ext2 anywhere. Only UFS2. ---Mike>e2fsprogs and copy large amount of data to it? On amd64 SMP (two >cores) RELENG_7_0 it should lead to unrecoverable panic or scrolling >strings "ext2_new_block: bit already set for block %d". On >6.2-STABLE there is no problem with linux partitions. > >Jakub Siroky > >On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:48:28 -0500 >Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> wrote: > > > At 04:11 PM 1/18/2008, Steven Hartland wrote: > > >I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there > > >any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there > > >any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues? > > > > I think it depends what apps you run, what drivers you rely on. The > > less esoteric your hardware is, the better the chances are that > > things will work well (eg. em nics vs nfe or tl etc etc). > > > > Our production experiences with 7 have been good so far. I just did a > > rather busy customer mail server this morning and so far so good. I > > migrated it from 6.3 to 7 and am just finishing the portupgrade > > process. We have also been running a 7.x box in our spam/virus > > scanning cluster since late Nov 2007 and no issues there either. We > > havent done any benchmarks to see if its faster than the 6.x boxes, > > but its certainly stable so far and seems to at least keep up to the > > other boxes. > > > > I am also testing a core2 and quad core box with 8 gig of RAM on a 4 > > port Areca controller that will replace a 6.2 postgresql server next > > week some time. Just doing some benchmarking/testing of that now and > > hope to have RELENG_7 64bit deployed next week on it if all goes > as planned. > > > > ---Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
At 04:48 PM 1/18/2008, Mike Tancsa wrote:>At 04:11 PM 1/18/2008, Steven Hartland wrote: >>I know 7 has had a lot of work done on locking and ULE but are there >>any other reasons to go for that instead of 6.3? Conversely are there >>any reason which would point away from 7 such as stability issues? > >Our production experiences with 7 have been good so far. I just did >a rather busy customer mail server this morning and so far so good. >I migrated it from 6.3 to 7 and am just finishing the portupgrade >process. We have also been running a 7.x box in our spam/virus >scanning cluster since late Nov 2007 and no issues there either. We >havent done any benchmarks to see if its faster than the 6.x boxes, >but its certainly stable so far and seems to at least keep up to the >other boxes.The 7.x box is a little faster according to my colleague. Below are the average scanning times per message. Assuming that in a 24hr period each box will get approximately the same mix of spam, the times below are how long an average scan took. He also said the 7x box does perform better under high load when a large blast comes in all at once. Lines: 15643 Total: 61114.90 Average: 3.91 Lines: 15446 Total: 61079.90 Average: 3.95 Lines: 15633 Total: 62584.70 Average: 4.00 Lines: 15481 Total: 60892.80 Average: 3.93 Lines: 15515 Total: 60714.40 Average: 3.91 Lines: 15603 Total: 58300.40 Average: 3.74 As well as spam scanning, they do AV stuff as well. ---Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Tancsa" <mike@sentex.net>> I am also testing a core2 and quad core box with 8 gig of RAM on a 4 > port Areca controller that will replace a 6.2 postgresql server next > week some time. Just doing some benchmarking/testing of that now and > hope to have RELENG_7 64bit deployed next week on it if all goes as planned.That would be very interesting from our side to know the results of. One of our main uses of FreeBSD is core boxes running webhosting, running DB, DNS etc. We also make extensive use of Supermicro Dual and Quad core machines with Areca controllers so... Regards Steve ===============================================This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Tancsa" <mike@sentex.net>> I am also testing a core2 and quad core box with 8 gig of RAM on a 4 > port Areca controller that will replace a 6.2 postgresql server next > week some time. Just doing some benchmarking/testing of that now and > hope to have RELENG_7 64bit deployed next week on it if all goes as planned.That would be very interesting from our side to know the results of. One of our main uses of FreeBSD is core boxes running webhosting, running DB, DNS etc. We also make extensive use of Supermicro Dual and Quad core machines with Areca controllers so... Regards Steve ===============================================This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.