freebsd stable - Nov 2007 - [FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1 and beyound] Rescue environment is non-functional on AMD64/Intel64

After some experimenting with BETA1/1.5 or whatever it is I encountered 
serious problems:

1. Emergency shell on tty3 is useless- not a single command is available.
2. When tried to use installcd as livecd is asked me to insert livecd (there 
is plenty of free space available on installcd- why not use that usefully?).

I am positive I was able to use emergency shell and livecd function on CURRENT 
september snapsot just fine (i386 version though).


Andrei

Hi,

Andrei Kolu wrote:
> After some experimenting with BETA1/1.5 or whatever it is I encountered 
> serious problems:
>
> 1. Emergency shell on tty3 is useless- not a single command is available.
>   
This is install CD not fixit CD. On istall CD emergency shell becomes 
useful once you actually install those commands.
> 2. When tried to use installcd as livecd is asked me to insert livecd
(there
> is plenty of free space available on installcd- why not use that
usefully?).
>   
BETA ISOs are smaller only because packages are not included, and they 
will be included for FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE.
> I am positive I was able to use emergency shell and livecd function on
CURRENT
> september snapsot just fine (i386 version though).
>   
Yes you can use it and now after the install process is
started.
>
> Andrei
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Stefan Lambrev
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on 08/11/2007 00:25 Wayne Chapeskie said the following:
> For BETA2, there is a separate livefs iso image available for amd64 and
> ia64.  The i386 disc1 ISO's still include "Fixit"
functionality, in the
> usual place in the first sysinstall menu.  If the required packages take
> up too much space for the i386 release, we will probably see a separate
> livefs ISO for this as well.  Earlier releases or snapshots for the
> amd64 and ia64 may not have had the same space constraints, and
> perhaps included fixit/livefs functionality on the disc1 ISO.
BTW, maybe this should be documented somewhere ?
Explanations like this one should not be left to mailing list archives
and search engine indexes alone.

It seems that livefs ISOs are produced for some time now, but I never
saw any description of them. This might not be a good example, but if I
google for "FreeBSD livefs" I don't get any meaningful results,
mostly
links to the ISOs. So until now I was puzzled about the purpose of those
ISOs and their difference to disk1 live fs functionality. Yes, I am a
newcomer from i386 to amd64.

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Andriy Gapon

on 09/11/2007 01:23 Wayne Chapeskie said the following:
> 
> We are still in the beta stage of the release cycle, where the mailing
> list is actually a good place to find out what is going on.  Web site
> documentation usually doesn't catch up until release time. The purposes
of
> the various release ISO images are documented in the release
> announcements -- see the 6.2 release announcement at
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html
> which did indeed mention the "live CD" functionality in disc1.
> 
> In 6.2, only ia64 had a livefs ISO, amd64 did not, nor did i386.  The
> configuration of the release ISO's does change over the years, and has
> in the past been documented in a README in the ftp directories, and is
> now documented in the release announcements.  The ia64 livefs ISO was a
> slight oversight in the 6.2 release notes, but since we are going to be
> seeing more cases of livefs not fitting on the disc1 install, I imagine
> future release announcements will reflect that.
> 
> 
I understand.
Maybe a short addition to the Handbook would be nice, maybe somewhere
near "2.3.6 Obtain the FreeBSD Installation Files". I think ISO image
functions/layouts change rarely enough to be documented in the Handbook.
Just my 2c.



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Andriy Gapon