Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. Jason -- "Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with people who are reckless with yours"........Lehrmann (1997)
On Monday 29 October 2007, Jason Slack wrote:> Hi All, > > I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. > > I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of > RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could > get into a new apartment together. > > I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one > to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test > releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have > to wipe?With FreeBSD you can (by and large) upgrade from anything to anything. Certainly from 6.x or 7-beta to 7.0 release when that happens. (Upgrades to later 7.x releases will be painless as well.) You can do a binary upgrade, but most people on this list (-stable) will use source upgrade. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html It's really a fairly straightforward procedure, especially for someone with Unix background like yourself. When you upgrade, make sure you're using the source tag that you want (maybe RELENG_7_0 for you, which is the release branch - only critical fixes will go in this after the release happens). Welcome to FreeBSD. -David
Hello Jason, ----- Original Message ----> From: Jason Slack <slackmoehrle@gmail.com> > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:25:18 AM > Subject: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions > > Hi All, > > I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. > > I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with > 4GB >of> RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and > I >could get> into a new apartment together. > > I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am > not >one> to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from > the >test> releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do > you >have> to wipe? > > I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. > > Jason > -- > "Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with > people >who> are reckless with yours"........Lehrmann (1997)You can always upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version without too much hassle. Here are the steps. csup your src tree to RELENG_7 Then do these steps as root #cd /usr/src #make cleandir #make cleanworld #mergemaster -p #make buildworld #make buildkernel #make installkernel #reboot #cd /usr/src #make installworld #mergemaster -iU (-iU added to automatically install files that don't exist and upgrade those that haven't changed. #reboot mergemaster made it very easy to upgrade, thank you Doug! }:) Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Jason Slack wrote:> I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one > to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test > releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have > to wipe? >You can easily upgrade from 7.0-BETA to 7.0-RELEASE without erasing your drive. Historically, FreeBSD has always been upgradeable even through major releases, 4 to 5, 5 to 6. Sometimes that has been more painful than others. Upgrading within a major release, 6.1 to 6.2, has always been pretty easy. Later, Jason
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote:> Hi All, > > I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. > > I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of > RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get > into a new apartment together. > > I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one > to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test > releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have > to wipe? > > I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X.Hi Jason, Welcome to FreeBSD! In the future, questions like this are best served on the freebsd-questions mailing list, where there are many more people to help with new-user issues like this. To your question - upgrades between freebsd minor releases are almost always really easy (7.x->7.x). Upgrades from 4.X to 6.x are a little hairy. 6.x to 7.x aren't bad at all. See the freebsd handbook, and the (imo horribly misnamed) chapter "The Cutting Edge" for information on how to perform the upgrades. (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html). Dan
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote:> > I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one > to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test > releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have > to wipe? >From ports, you install "cvsup" and you can keep your ports and OS source up to date. The last time a full install was preferred was going from the 5.x release to 6.x, I believe, due to differences in GCC 3.x and GCC 4.x. So, it rarely happens. Bruce -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes
> can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the > final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe?Some machines out there have been continuously upgraded since the FreeBSD 2.x days. So yes, by all means, FreeBSD can be upgraded without wiping.
Jason Slack wrote:> I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one > to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test > releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have > to wipe?Yes, you can upgrade your system without wiping the disk. You just sync the sources and recompile the kernel/world. The FreeBSD Handbook has more information regarding this, I recommend reading it -- it's worth it ;-) HTH, Philipp -- www.familie-ost.info/~pj
On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Jason Slack wrote:> but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get > into a new apartment together.I've seen plenty of apartment buildings with a "no dogs" policy, but this seems to be going too far.> I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am > not one > to continually wipe and reload my machine,As many others pointed out, upgrading is easy. Read the manual about using csup to track source changes and then just follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING Cheers, -j
On Monday 29 October 2007 20:25:18 Jason Slack wrote:> I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of > RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could > get into a new apartment together.you really should read manpage of "gmirror deactivate" or something and then issue the "gmirror forget" cmd or get yourself a more reliable equipment :) or! ... transfer the apartment to me and I help you getting a new fiance worth the troubles :) -- Jo?o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br