Michael Nottebrock
2007-Jul-28 07:21 UTC
powerd freeze with amd 5000 X2 but not with lower cpus
JoaoBR schrieb:> On Friday 27 July 2007 12:31:55 Nate Lawson wrote: > >> JoaoBR wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> when I enable powerd with default flags (and any other also) the computer >>> freezes some seconds after powerd is started. It does not reach login. >>> Nothing in the logs. This is with amd 5000 X2 Am2 >>> >>> When i stick into the same computer a 4600 or 4200 it runs fine and >>> smooth. >>> >>> I thought it is MB related and did the same and again the 5000 cpu >>> freeze, the smaller ones not. >>> >>> Any idea what I should do? >>> >>> I use releng_6 amd and i386 same story and cpufreq and acpi is compiled. >>> >> Disable powerd again and boot normally. Try changing the frequency with >> "sysctl dev.cpu", etc. and see if any of the levels freeze for you. >> >> > > ok, this is what I get > > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2600/100000 2400/85596 2200/72544 2000/60778 1800/50237 > 1000/25535 > > no need to say but the fan levels obviously are wrong > > And now the interesting part I shift to 2400 or any other and immediately > freeze, that from kde konsole > > in single user mode I can shift up and down between all speeds and nothing > happens >[Jumping in from the thread started on -stable - http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-July/036395.html - see there for system details] Same here - in single user mode, even powerd works fine - like it does with SMP disabled - but no go in multiuser.> I see some similar discussion on stable but I can not match with everything > there because I have the problem only with the athlon 5000 cpu >The CPU difference is interesting - exactly what model is your X2 4600+? Mine is a stepping F, model 4B, rev BH-F2 ("Energy Efficient" with 65W TDP). Cheers, -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 250 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20070728/56553ab3/signature.pgp
On Saturday 28 July 2007 04:21:39 Michael Nottebrock wrote:> JoaoBR schrieb: > > On Friday 27 July 2007 12:31:55 Nate Lawson wrote: > >> JoaoBR wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> when I enable powerd with default flags (and any other also) the > >>> computer freezes some seconds after powerd is started. It does not > >>> reach login. Nothing in the logs. This is with amd 5000 X2 Am2 > >>> > >>> When i stick into the same computer a 4600 or 4200 it runs fine and > >>> smooth. > >>> > >>> I thought it is MB related and did the same and again the 5000 cpu > >>> freeze, the smaller ones not. > >>> > >>> Any idea what I should do? > >>> > >>> I use releng_6 amd and i386 same story and cpufreq and acpi is > >>> compiled. > >> > >> Disable powerd again and boot normally. Try changing the frequency with > >> "sysctl dev.cpu", etc. and see if any of the levels freeze for you. > > > > ok, this is what I get > > > > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2600/100000 2400/85596 2200/72544 2000/60778 > > 1800/50237 1000/25535 > > > > no need to say but the fan levels obviously are wrong > > > > And now the interesting part I shift to 2400 or any other and immediately > > freeze, that from kde konsole > > > > in single user mode I can shift up and down between all speeds and > > nothing happens > > [Jumping in from the thread started on -stable - > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-July/036395.html > - see there for system details] > > Same here - in single user mode, even powerd works fine - like it does > with SMP disabled - but no go in multiuser. > > > I see some similar discussion on stable but I can not match with > > everything there because I have the problem only with the athlon 5000 cpu > > The CPU difference is interesting - exactly what model is your X2 4600+? > Mine is a stepping F, model 4B, rev BH-F2 ("Energy Efficient" with 65W > TDP).seems to be the same but I have better news and seems my first idea was right, the MB is it I found a tech info on the manufactor's support site telling cpu support up to 4600+ and found a bios for newer cpus including my 5000+ so I upgraded the bios and my CPU now works with smp + cpufreq + powerd on both amd64 and i386 nothing wrong with freebsd and xorg neither :) -- Jo?o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br
On Saturday 28 July 2007 08:40:33 Oliver Brandmueller wrote:> Hi, > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:33:55AM -0300, JoaoBR wrote: > > my ok msg was too fast, after some time my video starts flickering and > > stays so and the PC is freezed up, disabling powerd and works stable > > > > until it freeze cpu frequency shifting is done well > > > > manually I can set all cpu speeds and seems to stay stable on each > > > > must be related to X because I have some servers without X but > > cpufreq+smp+powerd running absolutely stable > > Did you ever try to measure the difference in power consumption of the > whole PC, so you know all the trouble actually is worth anything? :-) >yup I did, probably not exactly the issue if you use a computer from time to time at home but if you have 200 running 24x7 things change Anyway I understand what you try to say but powerconsumption is not the only reason for using powerd there are secondary issues as PS, cooler and fan lifetimes for example, lower air conditioning costs also come in here fan noise is one of the interesting issues for home users or for whom likes it quiet in the office -- Jo?o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br
Kris Kennaway
2007-Aug-06 17:49 UTC
powerd freeze with amd 5000 X2 but not with lower cpus
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 10:54:08AM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote:> On 8/6/07, JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br> wrote: > > Only to remember the problem only ocurres when loading powerd and seems the > > freeze happens when cpu freq is upshifting not down. > > > Try setting: > > hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled="1" > > in /boot/loader.conf, as acpi_throttle may be the cause of the freeze.FYI this worked for me. Kris
Oliver Brandmueller
2007-Aug-06 17:54 UTC
powerd freeze with amd 5000 X2 but not with lower cpus
hi, On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 01:49:20PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:> > hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled="1" > > in /boot/loader.conf, as acpi_throttle may be the cause of the freeze. > > FYI this worked for me.for me, too. Dual Opteron on Tyan board. - Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! |