freebsd stable - Sep 2006 - Intel se7230NH1-E, 6gb memory not working on FreeBSD 6.0

Hello,

I am having a very hard time getting an Intel se7230NH1-E motherboard with
6gb of memory to work.  I keep getting two messages about "Too many holes
in the physical address space, giving up".

I'm not sure what the BIOS is (it seems to be OEMed to Intel), but with
the menu structure I'd have to throw a dart at AMI BIOS.

I've scanned the newsgroups/message boards for issues surrounding this and
most suggest that there is a BIOS setting that can be tweaked to make
things come together.  However, I just don't see any of those options -
the only thing there with respect to memory involves memory timing.

Other posts have talked about unlocking "hidden menus" in the BIOS
(I'll
save my tirade on hiding BIOS menu options for another day - but whoever
did this should be ashamed of yourself).  Alas, none of these have given
me any luck.

So, with that in mind... Anyone have any ideas on how I can get this to
recognize the 6gb of memory we have installed on the motherboard?

- Greg

On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 01:58:59PM -0700, mailinglists@net-virtual.com
wrote:
> I am having a very hard time getting an Intel se7230NH1-E motherboard with
> 6gb of memory to work.  I keep getting two messages about "Too many
holes
> in the physical address space, giving up".
> 
> I'm not sure what the BIOS is (it seems to be OEMed to Intel), but with
> the menu structure I'd have to throw a dart at AMI BIOS.
> 
> I've scanned the newsgroups/message boards for issues surrounding this
and
> most suggest that there is a BIOS setting that can be tweaked to make
> things come together.  However, I just don't see any of those options -
> the only thing there with respect to memory involves memory timing.
> 
> Other posts have talked about unlocking "hidden menus" in the
BIOS (I'll
> save my tirade on hiding BIOS menu options for another day - but whoever
> did this should be ashamed of yourself).  Alas, none of these have given
> me any luck.
> 
> So, with that in mind... Anyone have any ideas on how I can get this to
> recognize the 6gb of memory we have installed on the motherboard?
Based on what I understand of Intel x86 architecture, to address more
than 4GB of memory space, you have to use Intel's PAE feature.  I
don't think the FreeBSD kernels are built with PAE enabled.  This
might explain why the kernel states there's too many memory holes.

I'd recommend either 1) disabling PAE (Physical Address Extensions)
in the BIOS if possible, or 2) removing some RAM from the system,
getting FreeBSD installed + upgraded to 6.2, building a kernel that
has PAE enabled and then putting the extra RAM back in.

Any other administrators have tips/comments?

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>Based on what I understand of Intel x86 architecture, to address more
>than 4GB of memory space, you have to use Intel's PAE feature.  I
>don't think the FreeBSD kernels are built with PAE enabled.  This
>might explain why the kernel states there's too many memory holes.
>
>I'd recommend either 1) disabling PAE (Physical Address Extensions)
>in the BIOS if possible, or 2) removing some RAM from the system,
>getting FreeBSD installed + upgraded to 6.2, building a kernel that
>has PAE enabled and then putting the extra RAM back in.
>
>Any other administrators have tips/comments?
I have built a PAE kernel in FreeBSD (sorry forgetting to mention that). 
There are no options in the BIOS relating to PAE.

I don't mind upgrading to 6.2, but unless I missed something obvious (I
probably did), it doesn't seem like that is going to help here.

Your suggestion about removing RAM is a good one, maybe its a bad chip or
something, even...

- Greg

>I have no idea if the problem is related to PAE, but have you tried
>booting an amd64 kernel on the system?
This is an Intel Pentium 4 (D) system.  Would the AMD64 kernel even work?

- Greg

On Wednesday 27 September 2006 16:58, mailinglists@net-virtual.com
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am having a very hard time getting an Intel se7230NH1-E motherboard with
> 6gb of memory to work.  I keep getting two messages about "Too many
holes
> in the physical address space, giving up".
> 
> I'm not sure what the BIOS is (it seems to be OEMed to Intel), but with
> the menu structure I'd have to throw a dart at AMI BIOS.
> 
> I've scanned the newsgroups/message boards for issues surrounding this
and
> most suggest that there is a BIOS setting that can be tweaked to make
> things come together.  However, I just don't see any of those options -
> the only thing there with respect to memory involves memory timing.
> 
> Other posts have talked about unlocking "hidden menus" in the
BIOS (I'll
> save my tirade on hiding BIOS menu options for another day - but whoever
> did this should be ashamed of yourself).  Alas, none of these have given
> me any luck.
> 
> So, with that in mind... Anyone have any ideas on how I can get this to
> recognize the 6gb of memory we have installed on the motherboard?
> 
> - Greg
RELENG_6 allows for more holes.  Please try that out.

-- 
John Baldwin