Under 4.11 I was using gcc34 and gdb6 to run and debug code. Moving to 5.4 these tools come as standard, so I am now just using the normal cc / gdb combination. I am finding that when my code breaks with SIGABRT (as the result of an unknown method being sent in this case) then I cannot get a backtrace in gbd as it tells me "The program no longer exists." This appears to be FreeBSD 5.4 specific - using the same versions of the compiler and debugger under FreeBSD 4.11 doesnt have this problem, and it does not occurr on other operating systems either. 4.11 output from gdb6: Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. 0x280b3474 in kill () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 5.4 output from gdb Program terminated with signal SIGABRT, Aborted. The program no longer exists. Heres the code I am using. Its compiled with 'cc -g test.m -lobjc -pthread' #include <objc/objc.h> #include <objc/objc-api.h> #include <objc/Object.h> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { id my_test = [Object new]; [my_test a_missing_method]; return 0; } Several people have tried this on other operating systems and do not see the same problem - also (as I said) it does not occur on FreeBSD 4.11 so it seems to be specific to FreeBSD 5. -pcf.