Well, I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to the latest (as of 3/28/05 0600 UTC) -stable a.k.a. 5.4-PRERELEASE yesterday and I was quite disappointed; my expectations weren't met. I expected a panic executing cu -l /dev/ucom0 as you suggested but it didn't happen. Kept the machine up overnight - mgetty running, people dialing in - and expected a panic this morning but didn't get one either. I even tried to reproduce the panic mentioned in PR usb/77294 but failed - maybe i wasn't doing it right? So far, my expectations have not been met and I am very pleasantly disappointed. One thing that remains is the console message: putc to a clist with no reserved cblocks Will now build a custom kernel and test long term stablity. Dennis -- Mars Trading 9620 Kamagong St., Makati, Manila, Philippines Phone: (632) 8952241 FAX: (632) 8996124 email: marstrade@gmail.com dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 28 16:31:31 PHT 2005 root@go.ubc.pldt.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (751.33-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> AMD Features=0xc0440000<RSVD,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 268369920 (255 MB) avail memory = 252952576 (241 MB) npx0: <math processor> on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: <FIC AZ11> on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: <ACPI CPU (3 Cx states)> on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0 acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0 pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0x6000-0x607f,0x5000-0x500f,0x4080-0x40ff,0x4000-0x407f,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0 agp0: <VIA 82C8363 (Apollo KT133x/KM133) host to PCI bridge> mem 0xe0000000-0xe1ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1 pci1: <display, VGA> at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xc000-0xc01f irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci0 usb0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 11 at device 5.1 on pci0 usb1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: <serial bus, USB> at device 5.2 (no driver attached) xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xc800-0xc87f mem 0xe5000000-0xe500007f irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0 ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: Ethernet address: 00:04:75:98:bb:d3 lnc0: <PCNet/PCI Ethernet adapter> port 0xcc00-0xcc1f mem 0xe5002000-0xe500201f irq 10 at device 7.0 on pci0 lnc0: Attaching PCNet/PCI Ethernet adapter lnc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:f4:ae:0f:2d lnc0: if_start running deferred for Giant lnc0: PCnet-PCI isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 20.0 on pci0 isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0 atapci0: <VIA 82C686A UDMA66 controller> port 0xd000-0xd00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 20.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci2: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 11 at device 20.2 on pci0 usb2: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> port 0xe400-0xe403,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdcff irq 5 at device 20.5 on pci0 pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9700/83/84 AC97 Codec> fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: <Standard parallel printer port> port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0 plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0 lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0 atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ucom0: Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2 ucom1: Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 3 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 751332716 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 39205MB <Maxtor 6E040L0/NAR61EA0> [79656/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: DVDROM <DVD-ROM DDU1621/VER S4.0> at ata1-slave UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a