freebsd stable - Aug 2003 - whining about tinderbox messages

On the one hand, yes, they're about things most readers can't do
anything
about.

On the other hand, they do let you know (once the tinderbox has stabilized, 
this being a new setup with the bugs being worked out of it) whether recent 
-STABLE will build or not, which can be quite useful even for ordinary users 
of -STABLE.  (You know to hold off on updating if it's failing for your 
platform(s).)

Mail filters exist for a reason; use them.

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On 16 Aug, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH punched keys in this particular
order:
> On the other hand, they do let you know (once the tinderbox has stabilized,
> this being a new setup with the bugs being worked out of it) whether recent
> -STABLE will build or not, which can be quite useful even for ordinary
users
> of -STABLE.  (You know to hold off on updating if it's failing for your
> platform(s).)
Maybe you (or who else is responsible) can spare us the false and
the excpected negatives, so that it looks at least like a trustworthy
attempt? I don't consider it wise to send TB messages when you're not
certain whether it is FreeBSD's fault or the tinderbox's.

I also think it would be nicer to send a TB message at the first
breakage, and a "builds again" message once the problems are solved.
It
is easier on the users like me, and I'm quite certain it's less
annoying to the developers ("yeah yeah, I know that's broken, I'm
working on it!").

And as a final remark; Could you please limit your opinion to the
technical content, and exclude the people from it (referring to the
subject)? Otherwise you're working to make a "mild annoyance" grow
to a
flamewar. And nobody wants that.

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