For those who want to come up North, I spotted this on Jobserve: http://www.jobserve.com/it/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=C0194BEF0C982C43 I don't have any more info, but thought I'd put the pointer up here anyway. I don't have enough recent dev experience to go for it myself. By the way, £35k/year around here buys you about the same quality of life as £50k/year in London, so it's a decent salary... -- Paul Robinson http://www.iconoplex.co.uk/