Hi
I''m not sure if this is the right list but I''m using fc17 and
have installed
the Microsoft webcore fonts (using yum install
webcore-fonts-3.0-1.noarch.rpm)
the standard fonts are fine but the symbol fonts don''t show any charset
(and don''t display any characters). I have an fc14 box with the same
fonts installed (both boxes are locale en_GB.UTF-8) that produces the
following output with FC_DEBUG=256 and
fc-query /usr/share/fonts/webcore/wingding.ttf
FC14 Box
=======FC_DEBUG=256
FC_DEBUG=256
found family (n 1 p 1 e 0 l 0x0000) Wingdings
found full (n 4 p 1 e 0 l 0x0000) Wingdings
found style (n 2 p 1 e 0 l 0x0000) Regular
os2 weight class 400 maps to weight 80
os2 width class 5 maps to width 100
Style Regular maps to slant -1
Style Regular maps to decorative 0
aa(0) ab(90)
af(1) { 0149 }
ak(15) am(264) an(0) ar(36) as(64) ast(0) av(67) ay(0)
az-az(7) { 011e 011f 0130 015e 015f 018f 0259 }
az-ir(40) ba(82) be(68) ber-dz(18) ber-ma(32) bg(60) bh(68)
bho(68) bi(0)
bin(6) { 0300 0301 1eb8 1eb9 1ecc 1ecd }
bm(8) { 014a 014b 0186 0190 019d 0254 025b 0272 }
bn(63) bo(95) br(0) bs(10) bua(70) byn(255)
ca(2) { 013f 0140 }
ce(67) ch(0) chm(76) chr(85) co(0)
crh(5) { 011e 011f 0130 015e 015f }
cs(20)
csb(8) { 0104 0105 0141 0142 0143 0144 017b 017c }
cu(103) cv(74) cy(12)
da(2) { 00dd 00fd }
de(0) dv(49) dz(95) ee(26) el(67) en(0) eo(12) es(0)
et(4) { 0160 0161 017d 017e }
eu(0) fa(40) fat(15) ff(10)
fi(4) { 0160 0161 017d 017e }
fil(0) fj(0)
fo(4) { 00d0 00dd 00f0 00fd }
fr(0) fur(0) fy(0) ga(18) gd(0) gez(218) gl(0)
gn(4) { 0129 0169 1ebd 1ef9 }
gu(68) gv(0)
ha(8) { 0181 018a 0198 0199 01b3 01b4 0253 0257 }
haw(11) he(27) hi(68) hne(68) ho(0) hr(10) hsb(18) ht(0)
hu(4) { 0150 0151 0170 0171 }
hy(77)
hz(5) { 032f 1e12 1e13 1e4a 1e4b }
ia(0) id(0) ie(0)
ig(6) { 1eca 1ecb 1ecc 1ecd 1ee4 1ee5 }
ii(1165) ik(68) io(0)
is(6) { 00d0 00dd 00de 00f0 00fd 00fe }
it(0) iu(161) ja(6537) jv(0) ka(33) kaa(78) kab(18)
ki(4) { 0128 0129 0168 0169 }
kj(0) kk(77)
kl(5) { 0128 0129 0138 0168 0169 }
km(63) kn(70) ko(2443) kok(68)
kr(4) { 018e 01dd 024c 024d }
ks(44) ku-am(64) ku-iq(32) ku-ir(32)
ku-tr(2) { 015e 015f }
kum(66) kv(70) kw(12) kwm(0) ky(70) la(16) lah(44) lb(0) lez(67)
lg(2) { 014a 014b }
li(0)
ln(9) { 011a 011b 0186 0190 0254 025b 0301 0302 030c }
lo(55) lt(18) lv(26) mai(68) mg(0) mh(10) mi(12) mk(42) ml(68)
mn-cn(130) mn-mn(70) mo(72) mr(68) ms(0)
mt(8) { 010a 010b 0120 0121 0126 0127 017b 017c }
my(48)
na(2) { 0168 0169 }
nb(0) nds(0) ne(68) ng(0) nl(0) nn(0) no(0) nr(0)
nso(2) { 0160 0161 }
nv(12)
ny(2) { 0174 0175 }
oc(0) om(0) or(68) os(66) ota(37) pa(63) pa-pk(44) pap-an(0)
pap-aw(0) pl(16) ps-af(49) ps-pk(49) pt(0)
qu(1) { 02c8 }
rm(0) rn(0)
ro(6) { 0102 0103 0218 0219 021a 021b }
ru(66) rw(0) sa(68) sah(76) sc(0)
sco(4) { 01b7 021c 021d 0292 }
sd(54) se(12) sel(66) sg(0) sh(104)
shs(1) { 0313 }
si(73) sid(281) sk(20) sl(10)
sm(1) { 02bb }
sma(0) smj(0) smn(10) sms(20) sn(0) so(0) sq(0) sr(60) ss(0)
st(0) su(0) sv(0) sw(0) syr(45) ta(48) te(70) tg(78) th(74) ti-er(255)
ti-et(281) tig(221)
tk(8) { 00dd 00fd 0147 0148 015e 015f 017d 017e }
tl(0)
tn(2) { 0160 0161 }
to(1) { 02bb }
tr(5) { 011e 011f 0130 015e 015f }
ts(0) tt(76) tw(15) ty(11) tyv(70) ug(36) uk(72) ur(44) uz(0)
ve(10) vi(112) vo(0)
vot(4) { 0160 0161 017d 017e }
wa(0) wal(281) wen(22)
wo(2) { 014a 014b }
xh(0) yap(0) yi(27) yo(33) za(0) zh-cn(6764) zh-hk(2213)
zh-mo(2213) zh-sg(6764) zh-tw(13063) zu(0)
Pattern has 19 elts (size 32)
family: "Wingdings"(s)
familylang: "en"(s)
style: "Regular"(s)
stylelang: "en"(s)
fullname: "Wingdings"(s)
fullnamelang: "en"(s)
slant: 0(i)(s)
weight: 80(i)(s)
width: 100(i)(s)
foundry: "microsoft"(s)
file: "/usr/share/fonts/webcore/wingding.ttf"(s)
index: 0(i)(s)
outline: FcTrue(s)
scalable: FcTrue(s)
charset:
0000: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff 7fffffff 00000000 8df3dfaf
9f7effff 9ffeffff
0001: 00000000 00020000 000c0000 01000000 00040000 00000000
00000000 00000000
0002: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
3f0000c0 00000000
0003: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000200
00000001 00000000
0020: 77180000 06010047 00000010 00000000 00000000 00001000
00000000 00000000
0021: 00000000 00000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000
0022: 44028044 00000800 00000100 00000031 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000
0025: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000400 00000000
00f8: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 80000000
00fb: 00000006 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000
(s)
lang:
aa|ast|ay|bi|br|ch|co|de|en|es|eu|fj|fr|fur|fy|gd|gl|gv|ho|ia|id|ie|io|it|lb|mg|nb|nds|nl|nn|no|nr|oc|om|pt|rm|sma|smj|so|sq|ss|st|sv|sw|tl|ts|uz|vo|wa|xh|yap|zu|an|fil|ht|jv|kj|kwm|li|ms|ng|pap-an|pap-aw|rn|rw|sc|sg|sn|su|za(s)
fontversion: 163840(i)(s)
fontformat: "TrueType"(s)
decorative: FcFalse(s)
FC17 Box (I have now upgrade fontconfig to 2.10.1 from rawhide to see if
that fixed the issue)
================================================================================FC_DEBUG=256
FC_DEBUG=256
found family (n 1 p 3 e 0 l 0x0409) Wingdings
found full (n 4 p 3 e 0 l 0x0409) Wingdings
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0406) normal
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0407) Standard
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0409) Regular
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x040a) Normal
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x040b) Normaali
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x040c) Normal
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0410) Normale
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0413) Standaard
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0414) Normal
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x041b) Norm??lne
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x041d) Normal
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0424) Navadno
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0816) Normal
found style (n 2 p 3 e 0 l 0x0c0a) Normal
os2 weight class 400 maps to weight 80
os2 width class 5 maps to width 100
Style normal maps to slant -1
Style normal maps to decorative 0
Style Standard maps to slant -1
Style Standard maps to decorative 0
Style Regular maps to slant -1
Style Regular maps to decorative 0
Style Normaali maps to slant -1
Style Normaali maps to decorative 0
Style Normale maps to slant -1
Style Normale maps to decorative 0
Style Standaard maps to slant -1
Style Standaard maps to decorative 0
Style Norm??lne maps to slant -1
Style Norm??lne maps to decorative 0
Style Navadno maps to slant -1
Style Navadno maps to decorative 0
aa(62) ab(90) af(69) ak(73) am(264) an(66) ar(36) as(64) ast(70) av(67)
ay(60) az-az(66) az-ir(40) ba(82) be(68) ber-dz(70) ber-ma(32) bg(60)
bh(68) bho(68) bi(58) bin(78) bm(60) bn(63) bo(95) br(64) brx(82) bs(62)
bua(70) byn(255) ca(74) ce(67) ch(58) chm(76) chr(85) co(84) crh(68)
cs(82) csb(74) cu(103) cv(74) cy(78) da(70) de(59) doi(85) dv(49) dz(95)
ee(99) el(69) en(72) eo(64) es(66) et(64) eu(56) fa(40) fat(73) ff(62)
fi(62) fil(84) fj(52) fo(68) fr(84) fur(66) fy(75) ga(80) gd(70)
gez(218) gl(66) gn(70) gu(68) gv(54) ha(60) haw(63) he(27) hi(68)
hne(68) ho(52) hr(62) hsb(72) ht(56) hu(70) hy(77) hz(57) ia(52) id(54)
ie(52) ig(58) ii(1165) ik(68) io(52) is(70) it(72) iu(161) ja(6537)
jv(56) ka(33) kaa(78) kab(70) ki(56) kj(52) kk(77) kl(81) km(63) kn(70)
ko(2443) kok(68) kr(56) ks(33) ku-am(64) ku-iq(32) ku-ir(32) ku-tr(62)
kum(66) kv(70) kw(64) kwm(52) ky(70) la(68) lah(27) lb(75) lez(67)
lg(54) li(62) ln(81) lo(55) lt(70) lv(78) mai(68) mg(56) mh(62) mi(64)
mk(42) ml(68) mn-cn(130) mn-mn(70) mni(76) mo(128) mr(68) ms(52) mt(72)
my(48) na(60) nb(70) nds(59) ne(72) ng(52) nl(82) nn(76) no(70) nqo(64)
nr(52) nso(58) nv(72) ny(54) oc(70) om(52) or(68) os(66) ota(37) pa(63)
pa-pk(27) pap-an(72) pap-aw(54) pl(70) ps-af(49) ps-pk(49) pt(82) qu(55)
rm(66) rn(52) ro(62) ru(66) rw(52) sa(68) sah(76) sat(70) sc(62) sco(56)
sd(54) se(66) sel(66) sg(72) sh(156) shs(48) si(73) sid(281) sk(86)
sl(62) sm(53) sma(60) smj(60) smn(68) sms(80) sn(52) so(52) sq(56)
sr(60) ss(52) st(52) su(54) sv(68) sw(52) syr(45) ta(48) te(70) tg(78)
th(74) ti-er(255) ti-et(281) tig(221) tk(68) tl(84) tn(58) to(53) tr(70)
ts(52) tt(76) tw(73) ty(65) tyv(70) ug(33) uk(72) ur(27) uz(52) ve(62)
vi(194) vo(54) vot(62) wa(70) wal(281) wen(76) wo(66) xh(52) yap(58)
yi(27) yo(119) za(52) zh-cn(6765) zh-hk(2213) zh-mo(2213) zh-sg(6765)
zh-tw(13063) zu(52)
Pattern has 20 elts (size 32)
family: "Wingdings"(s)
familylang: "en"(s)
style: "normal"(s) "Standard"(s)
"Regular"(s) "Normaali"(s)
"Normale"(s) "Standaard"(s) "Norm??lne"(s)
"Navadno"(s)
stylelang: "da"(s) "de"(s) "en"(s)
"fi"(s) "it"(s) "nl"(s)
"sk"(s) "sl"(s)
fullname: "Wingdings"(s)
fullnamelang: "en"(s)
slant: 0(i)(s)
weight: 80(i)(s)
width: 100(i)(s)
spacing: 100(i)(s)
foundry: "microsoft"(s)
file: "/usr/share/fonts/webcore/wingding.ttf"(s)
index: 0(i)(s)
outline: FcTrue(s)
scalable: FcTrue(s)
charset:
(s)
lang: (s)
fontversion: 163840(i)(s)
fontformat: "TrueType"(s)
decorative: FcFalse(s)
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Kieran <kieran.mccusker at kwest.info> wrote:> Hi > > I''m not sure if this is the right list but I''m using fc17 and have installed > the Microsoft webcore fonts (using yum install > webcore-fonts-3.0-1.noarch.rpm) > > the standard fonts are fine but the symbol fonts don''t show any charset > (and don''t display any characters).That result came from the Apple Roman cmap support in fontconfig and removed since 2.9.0 because it caused a trouble. basically there are nothing relationship to languages in symbol fonts and there are no way to know what characters they have in Unicode unless they are Unicode font or following any standard. so no charset in the result. This is expected behavior in a symbol font. -- Akira TAGOH
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Kieran <kieran.mccusker at kwest.co> wrote:> Again, I''m not sure if this is the right list but the reason I > discovered this was that I use pango to output wingding ticks. This > works fine on the FC14 box, but now doesn''t produce the symbol. Is there > something different I need to do when choosing the font in pango?pango_attr_fallback_new(FALSE) may helps. -- Akira TAGOH
Kieran
2012-Aug-30 16:42 UTC
[Fontconfig] Problem with webcore symbol fonts in 2.8+ (using pango)
On 29/08/2012 04:41, Akira TAGOH wrote:> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Kieran <kieran.mccusker at kwest.info> wrote: >> Hi >> >> I''m not sure if this is the right list but I''m using fc17 and have installed >> the Microsoft webcore fonts (using yum install >> webcore-fonts-3.0-1.noarch.rpm) >> >> the standard fonts are fine but the symbol fonts don''t show any charset >> (and don''t display any characters). > That result came from the Apple Roman cmap support in fontconfig and > removed since 2.9.0 because it caused a trouble. basically there are > nothing relationship to languages in symbol fonts and there are no way > to know what characters they have in Unicode unless they are Unicode > font or following any standard. so no charset in the result. > > This is expected behavior in a symbol font. >Hi Sorry for bothering this list again. My problem is that I want to use these fonts with pango. If I try to use pango-view --font="webdings" /etc/passwd on the fc14 box all is well. On the fc17 box it drops back to arial and in my application which produces PDFs it produces a little sqiggle. Is it possible to use these fonts using pango with the latest stack? Many Thanks Kieran
Nicolas Mailhot
2012-Aug-30 17:31 UTC
[Fontconfig] Problem with webcore symbol fonts in 2.8+ (using pango)
Le Jeu 30 ao?t 2012 18:42, Kieran a ?crit :> On 29/08/2012 04:41, Akira TAGOH wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Kieran <kieran.mccusker at kwest.info> >> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I''m not sure if this is the right list but I''m using fc17 and have >>> installed >>> the Microsoft webcore fonts (using yum install >>> webcore-fonts-3.0-1.noarch.rpm) >>> >>> the standard fonts are fine but the symbol fonts don''t show any charset >>> (and don''t display any characters). >> That result came from the Apple Roman cmap support in fontconfig and >> removed since 2.9.0 because it caused a trouble. basically there are >> nothing relationship to languages in symbol fonts and there are no way >> to know what characters they have in Unicode unless they are Unicode >> font or following any standard. so no charset in the result. >> >> This is expected behavior in a symbol font. >> > Hi > > Sorry for bothering this list again. My problem is that I want to use > these fonts with pango. > > If I try to use pango-view --font="webdings" /etc/passwd on the fc14 box > all is well. On the fc17 box it drops back to arial and in my > application which produces PDFs it produces a little sqiggle. Is it > possible to use these fonts using pango with the latest stack?Regardless of the issues with webdings, why are you using non-unicode proprietary symbol fonts on Fedora when it ships many libre symbol fonts with unicode encoding? Is there a specific symbol libre fonts do not provide? Unicode adoption on *nix is deep enough nowadays anything else can only result in pain -- Nicolas Mailhot