Well after reading all I can find on the net for my problems. I have decided that I am just going to have to ask the list. I recently upgraded my box from gnome 2.0 to gnome 2.2.1 . And thus upgraded fonconfig to 2.1. All I get now are fc-cache: relocation error: /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined symbol: FT_Get_Next_Char Or if I remove the dirs it has trouble with I get. No fonts found. What is going on? I have downloaded many fonts and fontconfig does not seem to like any of them. I test this by running fc-cache -v -f . I tried upgrading to fontconfig-2.1.92.tar.gz but this seems to have the same problems as 2.1. Any ideas? Any help would be great. TIA Joel Maisenhelder maisenhe@ugs.com