Hi again list, I have given the matter of supporting .cda as input format some more thought. What I wanted was an easier way to do drag 'n' drop music files from CDs onto the local system and then have those files encoded with FLAC. As of now most operating systems displays files on CDs as .cda. (Which has later been clarified not to even be a format.) I think that what I actually want is for the operating systems to use .flac instead. Similar to what Mac OS X does with .aiff. This should probably have been posted in the advocacy emailing list instead. -- Daniel Aleksandersen
> I think that what I actually want is for the operating systems to > use .flac > instead. Similar to what Mac OS X does with .aiff. This should > probably > have been posted in the advocacy emailing list instead.This is an interesting idea. There already is a FUSE filesystem called mp3fs (http://mp3fs.sourceforge.net/) which can dynamically transcode files from FLAC to MP3. Perhaps someone should write flacfs? The challenge for using FLAC would be to determine/predict/estimate the FLAC file size in advance. Technical difficulties aside, I think the idea of popping in a CD and having the files show up as FLAC would be an appealing one to users. I suppose another alternative would be to hack on cddafs or one of its cousins to add FLAC support. Stephen
On 2007-09-19, Stephen wrote:> > I think that what I actually want is for the operating systems to > > use .flac nstead. Similar to what Mac OS X does with .aiff. This should > > probably have been posted in the advocacy emailing list instead. > > This is an interesting idea. There already is a FUSE filesystem > called mp3fs (http://mp3fs.sourceforge.net/) which can dynamically > transcode files from FLAC to MP3. Perhaps someone should write flacfs? > > The challenge for using FLAC would be to determine/predict/estimate > the FLAC file size in advance. Technical difficulties aside, I think > the idea of popping in a CD and having the files show up as FLAC > would be an appealing one to users.Apples does it with .aiff. So it is not impossible. I guess the tracks would not have any compression for this process to be as smooth as possible. (Stephen, I keep bumping into your name everywhere since I last emailed you last time. I think the web is really getting smaller.) -- Daniel Aleksandersen
On 19/09/2007, Daniel Aleksandersen <aleksandersen+xiphlists@runbox.com> wrote:> thought. What I wanted was an easier way to do drag 'n' drop music files > from CDs onto the local system and then have those files encoded with FLAC. > > I think that what I actually want is for the operating systems to use .flac > instead. Similar to what Mac OS X does with .aiff. This should probably > have been posted in the advocacy emailing list instead.If you want drag-n-drop support in your file manager, mail the developers of that (eg. nautilus, KDE or whatever). If you want to do it on the commandline, write a shell script using cdparanoia and flac. This is an application feature, and its development is relevant to each application -- be that your own shell script, a file manager, or something bundled with OS X or Gnome etc. It's not a matter of advocacy. If this feature is important to you and you're willing to actively track and contribute to its development across multiple applications, then start a wiki page to track your patches. cheers, Conrad.
On 9/19/07, Stephen F. Booth <me@sbooth.org> wrote:> This is an interesting idea. There already is a FUSE filesystem > called mp3fs (http://mp3fs.sourceforge.net/) which can dynamically > transcode files from FLAC to MP3. Perhaps someone should write flacfs?It is an interesting concept.> I think > the idea of popping in a CD and having the files show up as FLAC > would be an appealing one to users.I don't know about you, but on KDE I already have this. Together with Vorbis, too. I just do a copy & paste back to the HDD, and the content is ripped and encoded in one step in the format I want. To think some people speak ill of KDE. I pity them. -Ivo
Hi All, On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:04:59PM -0700, Stephen F. Booth wrote:>> I think that what I actually want is for the operating systems to use >> .flac >> instead. Similar to what Mac OS X does with .aiff. This should probably >> have been posted in the advocacy emailing list instead. > > This is an interesting idea. There already is a FUSE filesystem called > mp3fs (http://mp3fs.sourceforge.net/) which can dynamically transcode files > from FLAC to MP3. Perhaps someone should write flacfs?Hmm, that would be cool. Then you could mount mp3fs over the top of it!> The challenge for using FLAC would be to determine/predict/estimate the > FLAC file size in advance. Technical difficulties aside, I think the idea > of popping in a CD and having the files show up as FLAC would be an > appealing one to users.Yes, this is a challenge. I am the author of mp3fs, and a major challenge was to predict final file size accurately. This is why mp3fs only supports CBR mp3 and not VBR mp3 or ogg (which is inherently VBR). Is there a 'CBR' flac encoding mechanism?> I suppose another alternative would be to hack on cddafs or one of its > cousins to add FLAC support.I hadn't heard of cddafs before, looks kinda neat. Unfortunately, it looks like a kernel-mode filesystem which would be impossible to hack flac support into (unless you want to port flac into kernel space :)) FUSE filesystems are much easier as you can use userspace libs. Dave