Itamar Reis Peixoto
2007-Jul-21 18:38 UTC
[Fedora-xen] Fw: [Xen-users] Congratulations to Xen team!
fowarding take a look http://kerneltrap.org/node/13917 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Mornini" <tmornini@engineyard.com> To: "xen-users" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: [Xen-users] Congratulations to Xen team!> http://kerneltrap.org/node/13917 > > This is very important to us. > > Looking forward to continuous current kernel support! > > -- > -- Tom Mornini, CTO > -- Engine Yard, Ruby on Rails Hosting > -- Support, Scalability, Reliability > -- (866) 518-YARD (9273) >-------------------- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail: itamar@ispbrasil.com.br msn: itamarjp@starmedia.com skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 34 3238 3845 +55 11 4063 5033
Daniel P. Berrange
2007-Jul-21 18:47 UTC
Re: [Fedora-xen] Fw: [Xen-users] Congratulations to Xen team!
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:38:21PM -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:> fowarding > > take a look > > http://kerneltrap.org/node/13917Yes, we welcome this step forward towards a full Xen merge in LKML - it is a critical move for Xen to be sustainable as part of Fedora. It is, however, only a partial solution at this time, so we can''t actually make any real use of it in Fedora yet. At minimal we need architecture coverage - x86_64 in particular. Second we need support for using a single bzImage for both bare metal and Xen - the initial merge still produces separate binaries for Xen. Once those two are complete we''ll be able to use the mainline kernels for the guest. Focus is then on also merging Dom0 bits - with that we''ll have a much more sustainable solution. Regards, Dan. -- |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=|
Itamar Reis Peixoto
2007-Jul-21 19:14 UTC
Re: [Fedora-xen] Fw: [Xen-users] Congratulations to Xen team!
also there are lguest in 2.6.23 lguest will be compiled as module in new fedora kernels ? -------------------- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail: itamar@ispbrasil.com.br msn: itamarjp@starmedia.com skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 34 3238 3845 +55 11 4063 5033
Daniel P. Berrange
2007-Jul-21 19:25 UTC
Re: [Fedora-xen] Fw: [Xen-users] Congratulations to Xen team!
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 04:14:51PM -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:> also there are lguest in 2.6.23 > > lguest will be compiled as module in new fedora kernels ?We''ve no plans to include lguest in the Fedora kernels at this time. Again it is only available for i386. Its current purpose is as a means for kernel developers to research & experiment with virtualization ideas - not for end users to put into real world use - there is Xen & KVM for real world use in production. There are also no tools for managing lguest instances since it is mostly targetted for kernel hackers. Signs are that some of the ideas from lguest may merge into KVM allowing it to do paravirt without hardware support - if this happens it would be a better choice for Fedora that using lguest directly since we''ve already got management tools around KVM. So we''re basically intending to ''wait & see'' wrt to lguest and not enable it in Fedora at this time. Dan. -- |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=|
David Lutterkort
2007-Jul-23 20:37 UTC
Re: [Fedora-xen] Fw: [Xen-users] Congratulations to Xen team!
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 20:25 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 04:14:51PM -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > > also there are lguest in 2.6.23 > > > > lguest will be compiled as module in new fedora kernels ? > > We''ve no plans to include lguest in the Fedora kernels at this time. Again > it is only available for i386. Its current purpose is as a means for kernel > developers to research & experiment with virtualization ideas - not for end > users to put into real world use - there is Xen & KVM for real world use in > production.One of the biggest restrictions that lguest maintains is that it is guest and host kernel versions are tightly coupled - for the stated purpose of lguest completely appropriate, but definitely limits is usefulness as a replacement for pv Xen. So: even if lguest was in Fedora, you''d probably not get from it what you''d like to get from it. David