Fedora xen - Jan 2007 - guest debian on fedora host with virt-manager

Hello every body!

I have installed Xen on fedora to try  virt-manager.
All is allright to install an fedora guest.  But now i  want to install an
debian guest .
And i don''t find the  address  to have the debian medium.
I''have tried this
one "
http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/" and this one "
http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/" but it doesn''t match...

I just know the Fedora medium:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/

So, please i need the address of the debian medium ...


Thanks !

benjamin

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:43:01AM +0100, benjamin henrion
wrote:
> Hello every body!
> 
> I have installed Xen on fedora to try  virt-manager.
> All is allright to install an fedora guest.  But now i  want to install an
> debian guest .
> And i don''t find the  address  to have the debian medium.
I''have tried this
> one "
> http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/" and this one "
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/" but it doesn''t match...
> 
> I just know the Fedora medium:
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/
> 
> So, please i need the address of the debian medium ...
Unfortunately the Debian trees are not setup in a way which allows us to do
paravirtualized Xen installs from virt-manager[1]. So for Debian you''ll
have to
use full-virt instead, or run the Debian bootstrap scripts to manually create
a DomU image.  

Not much help for your situation, but we''re prototyping support for
installing
SuSE paravirt guests from virt-manager, now we''ve identified how their
installer
can be booted under Xen.

Regards,
Dan.

[1] virt-manager requires a vmlinuz & initrd file for Xen kernel which is
    able to boot straight into the installer.
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On 1/25/07, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com>
wrote:
> Unfortunately the Debian trees are not setup in a way which allows us to do
> paravirtualized Xen installs from virt-manager[1]. So for Debian
you''ll have to
> use full-virt instead, or run the Debian bootstrap scripts to manually
create
> a DomU image.
Just for the records, also on this list(same question came to
xen-users): one cannot throw just any mirror in any installer and hope
it works.
Different distributions do not only have a different mirror setup,
these two don''t even use the same package type. So it''s really
asking
too much to just feed the mirror address in.

But I think saying "the debian mirror is not set up right" is a bit
short sighted, and has the tendency to sound like "debian is wrong",
while one could also argue "virt-manager is not good enough to handle
debian" - both are wrong, because from both sides, these things cannot
be easily expected - bootstraping is complex.

For those who want to bootstrap Debian VMs on Fedora:
I was quite successful running debootstrap and xen-tools installed
from sources, or with an rpm created with alien, (which is
unforunately only available in Debian and SuSE)

Still, one problem remains unsolved, it is described in the thread

"Getting Debian domU running on fedora with fedora-native packages
(works with xensource binaries) "

And it basically means, you can create the system image, but with the
Fedora Xen packages, it just doesn''t boot, while the exact same image
runs 100% flawless with Xensource Xen binaries on fedora.
> Not much help for your situation, but we''re prototyping support
for installing
> SuSE paravirt guests from virt-manager, now we''ve identified how
their installer
> can be booted under Xen.
It''s quite simply documented in some blog on the net - didn''t
try it
and don''t have that link at hand, but I think anyway that running
these full fledged manual installers is not really the best way to go.
Better look at something simple like debootstrap. For example,  yum
installs of SuSE on Fedora also work well, the only problem that keeps
coming up is that Fedora kernel is incompatible with most other
distributions''s images - only for SuSE at least it works after some
tweaking while the debian problem mentioned above is, at least for me,
still unsolved.

Henning