Hi all ! I don''t know if this problem is specific to my laptop only or not. Its an Acer Aspire 3003 laptop. I installed F7 from the Live CD. After two sessions of logging in to the system (two sessions means using the system two times, by a proper shutdown procedure), I get error messages about bcm43xx_mac... module not found or loaded. I can understand that it is because I have not installed the bcm43xx_fwcutter rpm for my Broadcom wireless card... but why does it start after two sessions, why not in the first time itself ? Secondly, from this third session onwards, I have all kinds of I/O errors...sometimes, GRUB doesn''t appear, sometimes a "ls" command gives an I/O error...sometimes the name of the hard drive is followed by a series of ! signs .. upto around 15 of them !!. .. Well, I am actually a bit surprised at this... never happened in any previous Fedora versions I have used... and because of the GRUB problem, I had to install F7 three times till now. I am afraid this version of Fedora seems to be somewhat unstable to me as far as its working with my laptop goes. I can provide you with any details you would like to know... But I need a solution desperately..In fact, FC6 never gave me any problems but F7 seems to be behaving like Windows on my laptop !!! ... crashes without any reason. Yesterday, the same problem happened.. in desperation I tried installing FC6...the partition screen showed the hard drive name followed by lots of ! marks... the whole of 60 GB was under F7, but still it showed an extra 60GB of hard disk !!!!....then i rebooted instead of proceeding with the install and to my surprise, F7 now booted properly... Can anyone please give me some idea where the problem lies ?? Thanks and regards, Amitakhya Phukan.
First break things down a bit more: ".....I have all kinds of I/O errors............" This (unfortunately) sounds like a hardware issue. Kind of like your drive is going bad. Download the manufacture''s disk diagnostic utility and run it on the hard drive. Do a full scan. If you have issues getting grub to initiate and you are getting kernel messages about IO, it has always proven to be the drive going bad. You may not have ''seen this under previous versions" because you simply were not using that section of the hard drive. IF you pass on the drive test then RSVP with some details on your partition layout. Issues related to modules missing etc, could be from file level corruption due to bad drive... though the usual response is core dump of the kernel. If the system is "shutting off" this again could be from the drive being ''flaky''. Jeremey Wise Senior Consultant Arrow Enterprise Computing Solutions RHCE,MCSE,CNE,PSE,TSM -----Original Message----- From: fedora-laptop-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-laptop-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Amitakhya Phukan Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:49 AM To: fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com Subject: Acer laptop problem Hi all ! I don''t know if this problem is specific to my laptop only or not. Its an Acer Aspire 3003 laptop. I installed F7 from the Live CD. After two sessions of logging in to the system (two sessions means using the system two times, by a proper shutdown procedure), I get error messages about bcm43xx_mac... module not found or loaded. I can understand that it is because I have not installed the bcm43xx_fwcutter rpm for my Broadcom wireless card... but why does it start after two sessions, why not in the first time itself ? Secondly, from this third session onwards, I have all kinds of I/O errors...sometimes, GRUB doesn''t appear, sometimes a "ls" command gives an I/O error...sometimes the name of the hard drive is followed by a series of ! signs .. upto around 15 of them !!. .. Well, I am actually a bit surprised at this... never happened in any previous Fedora versions I have used... and because of the GRUB problem, I had to install F7 three times till now. I am afraid this version of Fedora seems to be somewhat unstable to me as far as its working with my laptop goes. I can provide you with any details you would like to know... But I need a solution desperately..In fact, FC6 never gave me any problems but F7 seems to be behaving like Windows on my laptop !!! ... crashes without any reason. Yesterday, the same problem happened.. in desperation I tried installing FC6...the partition screen showed the hard drive name followed by lots of ! marks... the whole of 60 GB was under F7, but still it showed an extra 60GB of hard disk !!!!....then i rebooted instead of proceeding with the install and to my surprise, F7 now booted properly... Can anyone please give me some idea where the problem lies ?? Thanks and regards, Amitakhya Phukan. _______________________________________________ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________
Wise, Jeremey wrote:> First break things down a bit more: > > ".....I have all kinds of I/O errors............" > > This (unfortunately) sounds like a hardware issue. Kind of like your > drive is going bad. Download the manufacture''s disk diagnostic utility > and run it on the hard drive. Do a full scan. If you have issues getting > grub to initiate and you are getting kernel messages about IO, it has > always proven to be the drive going bad. You may not have ''seen this > under previous versions" because you simply were not using that section > of the hard drive. > > > IF you pass on the drive test then RSVP with some details on your > partition layout. Issues related to modules missing etc, could be from > file level corruption due to bad drive... though the usual response is > core dump of the kernel. If the system is "shutting off" this again > could be from the drive being ''flaky''. > > > Jeremey Wise > Senior Consultant > Arrow Enterprise Computing Solutions > RHCE,MCSE,CNE,PSE,TSM > >hi there ! i think so that it is a hard drive problem... but strangely, now i am not getting any problems.. another thing... what should i use for my broadcom wireless card ? ndiswrapper or the bcm43xx_fwcutter rpm ? ndiswrapper worked fine for me during FC5 days...after that for FC6 and F7, ndiswrapper says a better driver is bcm43xx... but bcm43xx gives lots of error messages... also, after installing bcm43xx_fwcutter, it is really a pain to view any of the available networks... my dell laptop (its got an IPW2200) gives a listing of around 5-6 wireless networks in NetworkManager, but my acer laptop with broadcom gives me "no wireless networks found" thing.. any workaround for this ?? regards, amit.
-----Original Message----- From: Amitakhya Phukan [mailto:amitakhya@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:41 PM To: Wise, Jeremey Cc: fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Acer laptop problem Wise, Jeremey wrote:> First break things down a bit more: > > ".....I have all kinds of I/O errors............" > > This (unfortunately) sounds like a hardware issue. Kind of like your > drive is going bad. Download the manufacture''s disk diagnostic utility > and run it on the hard drive. Do a full scan. If you have issuesgetting> grub to initiate and you are getting kernel messages about IO, it has > always proven to be the drive going bad. You may not have ''seen this > under previous versions" because you simply were not using thatsection> of the hard drive. > > > IF you pass on the drive test then RSVP with some details on your > partition layout. Issues related to modules missing etc, could be from > file level corruption due to bad drive... though the usual response is > core dump of the kernel. If the system is "shutting off" this again > could be from the drive being ''flaky''. > > > >hi there ! i think so that it is a hard drive problem... but strangely, now i am not getting any problems.. --> likely your drive did a block redirect of bad clusters. BUT WARNING!!!! This is typically conducive of an impending failure of the drive. Run the disk check utility. If the drive is failing check for warranty. If it is out of warranty, well.... at least you know your risk. another thing... what should i use for my broadcom wireless card ? ndiswrapper or the bcm43xx_fwcutter rpm ? ndiswrapper worked fine for me during FC5 days...after that for FC6 and F7, ndiswrapper says a better driver is bcm43xx... but bcm43xx gives lots of error messages... ---> I, likely your Dell, use Intel wireless and it works great. I do not have a broadcom chipset to play with and I have tossed what feelers I can out to a few guys in office who run Linux and have that same chipset. But to be honest.. they just stuck in another NIC adapter to get wireless up and working vs debug it. That website is the only bone I can toss your way. also, after installing bcm43xx_fwcutter, it is really a pain to view any of the available networks... my dell laptop (its got an IPW2200) gives a listing of around 5-6 wireless networks in NetworkManager, but my acer laptop with broadcom gives me "no wireless networks found" thing.. ---> This is a bit confusing. Does it EVER see networks? IF it does and is a "distance from hub" issue, that is totally different then "never sees networks" in the list. (Please clarify after testing) any workaround for this ?? ---> Yes keep working at fixing your broadcom chipset (what I would do) but in the interim, go get a $10 NIC off ebay or from a buddy, to hold you over till you get broadcom to work. regards, amit. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________