Fedora directory users - Jun 2005 - Focus of this mailinglist?

Hi all,

I''m very, very to read about fedora (and Redhat) ldap server. It is
just
great and I interpret it as a sign, that Redhat (and probably fedora) 
are to support central identity-management (and hopefully 
configuration-management) using LDAP. That''s something I''ve
been missing
for quite some time.....

However, personally I''m more interested in USING LDAP than in
developing
a LDAP-server. Wouldn''t dare to touch it''s code. ;-)

So I''m someone to ask questions like "how can I make fedora to
query
LDAP for printers which the given computer might use and push this 
information to cups" or "can I store in LDAP that a certain group of 
computers (running fedora-linux) should only allor lgoins from 8 a.m. to 
8 p.m. but should deny login during the night" etc.

Asking such questions on openldap-mailinglists would not be desired....

Would such questions be on-topic here? Or where would my ideas and 
questions be welcome? What''s the intended focus of this mailinglist?

-- 
CU,
    Patrick.

I don''t have any quick answers to your questions.  There''s
some support
in the nss_ldap module for some of the things that you need, but I''m
not
an expert in this area.  On the server side I don''t know what we have
in
place.

OK, maybe this post is actually devoid of any information making it 
completely worthless.  But!  Our long term goals include making it very 
easy to do what you''re suggesting.

--Chris

Patrick von der Hagen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I''m very, very to read about fedora (and Redhat) ldap server. It
is just
> great and I interpret it as a sign, that Redhat (and probably fedora) 
> are to support central identity-management (and hopefully 
> configuration-management) using LDAP. That''s something
I''ve been missing
> for quite some time.....
> 
> However, personally I''m more interested in USING LDAP than in
developing
> a LDAP-server. Wouldn''t dare to touch it''s code. ;-)
> 
> So I''m someone to ask questions like "how can I make fedora
to query
> LDAP for printers which the given computer might use and push this 
> information to cups" or "can I store in LDAP that a certain group
of
> computers (running fedora-linux) should only allor lgoins from 8 a.m. to 
> 8 p.m. but should deny login during the night" etc.
> 
> Asking such questions on openldap-mailinglists would not be desired....
> 
> Would such questions be on-topic here? Or where would my ideas and 
> questions be welcome? What''s the intended focus of this
mailinglist?
>

Patrick von der Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I''m very, very to read about fedora (and Redhat) ldap server.
It is
>> just great and I interpret it as a sign, that Redhat (and probably 
>> fedora) are to support central identity-management (and hopefully 
>> configuration-management) using LDAP. That''s something
I''ve been
>> missing for quite some time.....
>>
>> However, personally I''m more interested in USING LDAP than in 
>> developing a LDAP-server. Wouldn''t dare to touch it''s
code. ;-)
>>
>> So I''m someone to ask questions like "how can I make
fedora to query
>> LDAP for printers which the given computer might use and push this 
>> information to cups" or "can I store in LDAP that a certain
group of
>> computers (running fedora-linux) should only allor lgoins from 8 a.m. 
>> to 8 p.m. but should deny login during the night" etc.
>>
>> Asking such questions on openldap-mailinglists would not be desired....
This is one of the things which has really turned me off about the OL 
project.

They are rather anal about the mention of any other LDAP software on the 
OpenLDAP list. I, for one, hope that the administrators of this list 
will not create that type of atmosphere here. For example, if somebody 
wants to ask how the replication mechanism works in OL compared to 
fedora-ds, then I''m happy to answer those type of questions.

--
mike

Mike Jackson wrote:
> This is one of the things which has really turned me off about the OL 
> project.
> 
> They are rather anal about the mention of any other LDAP software on the 
> OpenLDAP list. I, for one, hope that the administrators of this list 
> will not create that type of atmosphere here. For example, if somebody 
> wants to ask how the replication mechanism works in OL compared to 
> fedora-ds, then I''m happy to answer those type of questions.
You won''t find that here.  Our higher order goal is to solve problems 
using open source LDAP-based tools.  Which tool you use is less 
important to us than the fact that you''re using one at all.

--Chris

Christopher Blizzard wrote:

 > I don''t have any quick answers to your questions. 
There''s some
support in the nss_ldap module for some of the things that you need, but 
I''m not an expert in this area.  On the server side I don''t
know what we
have in place.

I don''t really care about the answers. ;-) Well, at least not now.
The point is, wheter I''m allowed to ask such questions here and you did
not answer "bugger off". That''s positive. :-)

IMHO Linux (or, in this special case, Fedora/Redhat) can benefit from 
integrating LDAP and I''m searching for a place to ask questions about
that.

The way I interpret your answer and the one of Mike, there seem to be 
people here who acknowledge that those questions have to be asked 
somewhere and don''t object to being asked those questions on this 
mailinglist. Perhaps we will see in several weeks (or month) that such 
questions might not be on-topic here after all, so I might have to move 
on or we might have start a new mailinglist "how fedora might use
LDAP".

Well, this is just a beginning, but I feel optimistic about it. :-)

 > OK, maybe this post is actually devoid of any information making it 
completely worthless.  But!  Our long term goals include making it very 
easy to do what you''re suggesting.

I like your answer. Really really. ;-)

It''s certainly not off-topic.  We would love to see these discussions 
happen here.

--Chris

Patrick von der Hagen wrote:
> Christopher Blizzard wrote:
> 
>  > I don''t have any quick answers to your questions. 
There''s some
> support in the nss_ldap module for some of the things that you need, but 
> I''m not an expert in this area.  On the server side I
don''t know what we
> have in place.
> 
> I don''t really care about the answers. ;-) Well, at least not now.
> The point is, wheter I''m allowed to ask such questions here and
you did
> not answer "bugger off". That''s positive. :-)
> 
> IMHO Linux (or, in this special case, Fedora/Redhat) can benefit from 
> integrating LDAP and I''m searching for a place to ask questions
about that.
> 
> The way I interpret your answer and the one of Mike, there seem to be 
> people here who acknowledge that those questions have to be asked 
> somewhere and don''t object to being asked those questions on this 
> mailinglist. Perhaps we will see in several weeks (or month) that such 
> questions might not be on-topic here after all, so I might have to move 
> on or we might have start a new mailinglist "how fedora might use
LDAP".
> 
> Well, this is just a beginning, but I feel optimistic about it. :-)
> 
>  > OK, maybe this post is actually devoid of any information making it 
> completely worthless.  But!  Our long term goals include making it very 
> easy to do what you''re suggesting.
> 
> I like your answer. Really really. ;-)
> 
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