Hi,This is Takeshi Uematsu. I have a trouble on the ext3 filesystem. The df command indicates minus disk usage. Dose anyone know why this happned ? Any ideas be appreciated. # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G -26G 118G - / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 3.9G 758G 1% /home fdisk /dev/sda Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sda2 14 13067 104856255 83 Linux /dev/sda3 13068 121193 868522095 83 Linux /dev/sda4 121194 121454 2096482+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
Sooner or later, the system WILL come to a stop -- either on purpose, or in
a crash ... the only question is whether or not it will be recoverable.
Then again, how big is the filesystem? .. Nevermind... I looked back at your
original post.
A couple of ideas:
1) make a backup AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE before shutting down the system...
If possible, after all services have been shut down.
(if you can't do that, then backup everything, then backup everything
that's
changed since the first backup started, then shut down services and
backup everything since the incremental backup started. (for minimal down
time).
If you've backed up to a second system that can replace the running (and
broken system), then use the second system in place of the corrupt system,
and you're now relatively happy. You can work on cleaning up the filesystem
and/or figuring out what broke it.
otherwise, you can either (1) wipe the filesystem and restore it from
backup, or (2) FSCK the system in hopes of cleaning things up ((( or,
ultimately, both, if #2 fails))).
A couple of more options:
1: install / build smartmontools for your system and make sure that the
drive, itself, isn't failing.
2: the problem is with your root filesystem, and I'm presuming that /home is
where most of your 'live' data is. This means that, if you follow the
process above, your final incremental backup should be TINY.
If the hard drive, itself, isn't failing, then you can build yourself a
new root filesystem (on an external usb/esata drive, if you don't
have hot-swap capability) from/as your backup , and boot off of that. That
would mean a minimal investment in new hardware (if you have a limited
budget
and/or esoteric hardware on your system). and minimal downtime (a few
minutes) .
If you have a second machine with the same/similar mother board, then you
can practice booting off of the spare drive there.
Worst case would be to boot off of a live CD and do an FSCK that way, but it
could take quite a while, and there is no guarantee that the filesystem will
have all of the parts left to be bootable after that, if FSCK removes a
bunch of critical files -- or the files are already corrupted.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Uematsu Takeshi
<takeshi.uematsu at gmail.com>wrote:
> Stephen,
> Thank you for your adviece.
>
> I have not done an FSCK yet.
> /dev/sda2 is /(root) partition.
> I know that it shouldn't execute fsck with the mounted filesystem.
> and cannot umount root file system.
>
> This system cannot be stopped.
> Do you know how to check the filesystem without stop ?
>
>
> 2011/2/4 Stephen Samuel <samuel at bcgreen.com>:
> > 1) do a backup (NOW!) if you haven't already done TWO.
> > 2) Have you done an FSCK with the filesystem unmounted?
> > (given that you pretty clearly have some corruption, you might
want
> to
> > do an 'fsck -n', and just see what FSCK is proposing to do to
the system.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Uematsu Takeshi <
> takeshi.uematsu at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,This is Takeshi Uematsu.
> >>
> >> I have a trouble on the ext3 filesystem.
> >> The df command indicates minus disk usage.
> >> Dose anyone know why this happned ?
> >> Any ideas be appreciated.
> >>
> >> # df -h
> >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> >> /dev/sda2 97G -26G 118G - /
> >> /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot
> >> tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm
> >> /dev/sda3 803G 3.9G 758G 1% /home
> >>
> >> fdisk /dev/sda
> >>
> >> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> >> /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
> >> /dev/sda2 14 13067 104856255 83 Linux
> >> /dev/sda3 13068 121193 868522095 83 Linux
> >> /dev/sda4 121194 121454 2096482+ 82 Linux swap
/
> >> Solaris
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > 778-861-7641 grows when you give it away
> >
>
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> From: Uematsu Takeshi <takeshi.uematsu at gmail.com> > To: ext3-users at redhat.com > Subject: minus disk usage > > Hi,This is Takeshi Uematsu. > > I have a trouble on the ext3 filesystem. > The df command indicates minus disk usage. > Dose anyone know why this happned ? > Any ideas be appreciated. > > # df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda2 97G -26G 118G - / > /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot > tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm > /dev/sda3 803G 3.9G 758G 1% /home > > fdisk /dev/sda > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 14 13067 104856255 83 Linux > /dev/sda3 13068 121193 868522095 83 Linux > /dev/sda4 121194 121454 2096482+ 82 Linux swap / SolarisYou should really do a fsck of the "/" FS. You should have a backup before doing a fsck because if there are major errors, running a fsck can make a FS unusable. A couple of other things you can try before doing a fsck are: Use dumpe2fs and see if there are any issues; dumpe2fs /dev/sda2 Use find cmd to list any "unusually" large files, adjust the value +100000 as needed; find / -mount -size +100000 -exec ls -l {} \; Check the sizes of the directories and files within, here is a variation of a script I use to do this to list the 10 largest directories of the "/" FS; for d in $( ls -1 / ) ; do if [[ "x$d" = "xboot" || "x$d" = "xhome" ]] ; then : else ls -d /$d du -sk /$d fi done | sort -n | tail You can then check each of the listed directories with the following; du -sk /usr/* | sort -n | tail and do this on the directories listed until you find the issue. Lastly re-boot the system with a CD installed it the system with, or later, enter "linux rescue" and run fsck on the root FS. If there are any errors, answering yes will try to correct the FS errors. Greg
Hi,This is Yoichi Takahashi I have a trouble on the ext3 filesystem. The display changes whenever the df command is executed. ?at short intervals? It is a minus display for the following, and normal displays. see below /dev/sda2 Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G -345M 93G 0% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G 1.2G 91G 2% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G 448M 92G 1% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G -109M 92G 0% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home The load is always a high server. LoadAverage is always 3or4 in the server Dose anyone know why this happned ? Any ideas be appreciated. ?????????????????????????????? GMO?????? & ?????????? ???23?4?1???GMO??????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????Youichi Takahashi ?150-8512?????????26?1????????? Cerulean Tower 26-1 Sakuragaoka-cho,Shibuya-ku,Tokyo (150-8512) Japan TEL +81-3-6415-7075 FAX ? +81-3-6415-6108 E-MAIL y-takahashi at gmo-hs.com URL http://www.gmo-hs.com STOCK CODE ??????3788???????? ??????????????????????????????
Hi,This is Yoichi Takahashi I have a trouble on the ext3 filesystem. The display changes whenever the df command is executed. ?at short intervals? It is a minus display for the following, and normal displays. see below /dev/sda2 Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G -345M 93G 0% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G 1.2G 91G 2% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G 448M 92G 1% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 97G -109M 92G 0% / /dev/sda1 99M 15M 80M 16% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda3 803G 2.5G 759G 1% /home The load is always a high server. LoadAverage is always 3or4 in the server Dose anyone know why this happned ? Any ideas be appreciated. ?????????????????????????????? GMO?????? & ?????????? ???23?4?1???GMO??????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????Youichi Takahashi ?150-8512?????????26?1????????? Cerulean Tower 26-1 Sakuragaoka-cho,Shibuya-ku,Tokyo (150-8512) Japan TEL +81-3-6415-7075 FAX ? +81-3-6415-6108 E-MAIL y-takahashi at gmo-hs.com URL http://www.gmo-hs.com STOCK CODE ??????3788???????? ??????????????????????????????