lists
2020-Oct-26 09:36 UTC
SV: SV: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server
Actually the reverse pointer doesn't have to match. In fact this is impossible if you are setting up virtual accounts on one server for different domains. You just need to have a reverse pointer. Most email servers look to seen if the reverse pointer has a "dyn" in it and blocks those. ? Original Message ? From: build+dovecot at de-korte.org Sent: October 26, 2020 2:02 AM To: dovecot at dovecot.org Subject: Re: SV: SV: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server Citeren Sebastian Nielsen <sebastian at sebbe.eu>:> Because when I email to friends that are using gmail, my mail ends up in > spam unless? my friends put me in whitelist. Seems to vary however, and > seems to get better with time.In order to prevent ending up in spam in GMail, it is necessary to? have working DKIM and/or SPF for your messages and forward- and? reverse DNS records for your mailserver match.
Sami Ketola
2020-Oct-26 10:22 UTC
Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server
> On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.36, lists <lists at lazygranch.com> wrote: > > Actually the reverse pointer doesn't have to match. In fact this is impossible if you are setting up virtual accounts on one server for different domains. You just need to have a reverse pointer. > > Most email servers look to seen if the reverse pointer has a "dyn" in it and blocks those. >Also your own email server is not behaving nicely: <lists at lazygranch.com <mailto:lists at lazygranch.com>>: host lazygranch.com <http://lazygranch.com/>[198.199.119.111] said: 500 5.7.1 <83-136-254-93.uk <http://83-136-254-93.uk/>-lon1.upcloud.host[83.136.254.93]>: Client host rejected: eat a bag of dicks (in reply to RCPT TO command) and for that reason I have blacklisted you from any help requests. You may do the same whatever you are telling me to do. Sami -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20201026/c35ab198/attachment.html>
Marc Roos
2020-Oct-26 11:40 UTC
Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server
you should ask your ip provider to set a proper reverse lookup for you. If I would get a lot of spam from upcloud.host ips, I would also consider blocking upcloud.host reverse dns lookups. If it is your ip, it is an easy request to have it changed. -----Original Message----- From: Sami Ketola [mailto:sami at ketola.io] Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:22 AM To: lists Cc: Arjen de Korte; Dovecot Mailing List Subject: Re: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.36, lists <lists at lazygranch.com> wrote: Actually the reverse pointer doesn't have to match. In fact this is impossible if you are setting up virtual accounts on one server for different domains. You just need to have a reverse pointer. Most email servers look to seen if the reverse pointer has a "dyn" in it and blocks those. Also your own email server is not behaving nicely: <lists at lazygranch.com>: host lazygranch.com[198.199.119.111] said: 500 5.7.1 <83-136-254-93.uk-lon1.upcloud.host[83.136.254.93]>: Client host rejected: eat a bag of dicks (in reply to RCPT TO command) and for that reason I have blacklisted you from any help requests. You may do the same whatever you are telling me to do. Sami
lists
2020-Oct-26 13:53 UTC
Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server
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doesn't have to match. In fact this is impossible if you are setting up
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email servers look to seen if the reverse pointer has a "dyn" in it
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