Hello all!
I've got a home server running on an ARM Cortex-A7 with my custom Linux
distribution. It's also responsible for handling incoming and outgoing
mails. The SMTP server is OpenSMTPD-6.0.3p1. I'm using Dovecot-2.3.2.1 to
export the mails (mailbox storage format) using IMAP.
My old server used to have Dovecot-1.2.0 and honestly, it was absolutely
sufficient for me. However, I've decided to use the latest Dovecot on my new
system, since all other software components of my system are up-to-date.
With my simple IMAP-configuration Dovecot is running fine, expect for one thing:
when I press DEL in the mailer client, the mails don't get deleted. They
simple reside in the mailbox file. It annoys me a lot, since the mailer client
regularly makes them appear with a different (grey) color.
The mailer client is Sylpheed and I'm not willing to use another one.
I've already tried Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws-mail, Sylpheed, and
Sylpheed suits best to my needs.
The funny thing is that with the same Sylpheed the old Dovecot was willing to
physically remove the mails from mailbox file, but the new Dovecot isn't
willing to do so.
I've tried to search for an appropriate configuration option, but didn't
find what I exactly need. Auto expunge, command-line expunging are nice, but I
do want immediate mail delete from mailbox file when I press DEL in the mailer
client. I know this can be dangerous and degrades performance.
Is there any option to configure Dovecot to behave like this? If it needs to
recompile Dovecot I'm also in ;)
Thanks a lot!
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dovecot -n output:
# 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /etc/dovecot.conf
# OS: Linux 4.18.9 armv7l
# Hostname: 486
auth_mechanisms = plain login
base_dir = /var/run/dovecot/
default_client_limit = 30
default_process_limit = 10
disable_plaintext_auth = no
listen = *
log_path = /var/log/dovecot.txt
mail_gid = 0
mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u
mail_uid = 0
namespace {
hidden = no
inbox = yes
list = yes
location =
mailbox {
auto = create
special_use = \Drafts
name = Drafts
}
mailbox {
auto = create
special_use = \Sent
name = Sent
}
mailbox {
auto = create
special_use = \Trash
name = Trash
}
prefix =
type = private
name = inbox
}
passdb {
driver = passwd
}
passdb {
driver = shadow
}
protocols = imap
service replication-notify-fifo {
name = aggregator
}
service anvil-auth-penalty {
name = anvil
}
service auth-worker {
name = auth-worker
}
service auth-client {
name = auth
}
service config {
name = config
}
service dict-async {
name = dict-async
}
service dict {
name = dict
}
service login/proxy-notify {
name = director
}
service dns-client {
name = dns_client
}
service doveadm-server {
name = doveadm
}
service imap-hibernate {
name = imap-hibernate
}
service imap {
name = imap-login
}
service imap-urlauth {
name = imap-urlauth-login
}
service imap-urlauth-worker {
name = imap-urlauth-worker
}
service token-login/imap-urlauth {
name = imap-urlauth
}
service imap-master {
name = imap
}
service indexer-worker {
name = indexer-worker
}
service indexer {
name = indexer
}
service ipc {
name = ipc
}
service lmtp {
name = lmtp
}
service log-errors {
name = log
}
service old-stats-mail {
name = old-stats
}
service pop3 {
name = pop3-login
}
service login/pop3 {
name = pop3
}
service replicator-doveadm {
name = replicator
}
service stats-reader {
name = stats
}
service submission {
name = submission-login
}
service login/submission {
name = submission
}
ssl = no
submission_max_mail_size = 0
userdb {
driver = passwd
}
verbose_proctitle = yes
--
Selmeci, Tam?s
http://www.486.hu/
Hello, most imap clients don't delete mails immediately, instead they are marked as deleted and expunged a few days or weeks later. From Sylpheed docs / Interface tab: https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/doc/manual/en/sylpheed-8.html ? If Execute immediately when moving or deleting messages is not selected, a new button appears in the button bar marked Execute. When deleting or moving messages, they are first marked as deleted or moved but Sylpheed does not move or delete them until you press the Execute button (or the Execute entry of the Tools menu). You could check if the filename of a deleted email has changed in your maildir. https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir -> Filename examples Look for T = trashed This is old and may have been fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208139 Regards, Gerald> Am 09.10.2018 um 09:04 schrieb tselmeci at 486.hu: > > Hello all! > > I've got a home server running on an ARM Cortex-A7 with my custom Linux distribution. It's also responsible for handling incoming and outgoing mails. The SMTP server is OpenSMTPD-6.0.3p1. I'm using Dovecot-2.3.2.1 to export the mails (mailbox storage format) using IMAP. > > My old server used to have Dovecot-1.2.0 and honestly, it was absolutely sufficient for me. However, I've decided to use the latest Dovecot on my new system, since all other software components of my system are up-to-date. > > With my simple IMAP-configuration Dovecot is running fine, expect for one thing: when I press DEL in the mailer client, the mails don't get deleted. They simple reside in the mailbox file. It annoys me a lot, since the mailer client regularly makes them appear with a different (grey) color. > > The mailer client is Sylpheed and I'm not willing to use another one. I've already tried Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws-mail, Sylpheed, and Sylpheed suits best to my needs. > > The funny thing is that with the same Sylpheed the old Dovecot was willing to physically remove the mails from mailbox file, but the new Dovecot isn't willing to do so. > > I've tried to search for an appropriate configuration option, but didn't find what I exactly need. Auto expunge, command-line expunging are nice, but I do want immediate mail delete from mailbox file when I press DEL in the mailer client. I know this can be dangerous and degrades performance. > > Is there any option to configure Dovecot to behave like this? If it needs to recompile Dovecot I'm also in ;) > > Thanks a lot! > > ----------------------------------------------- > dovecot -n output: > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /etc/dovecot.conf > # OS: Linux 4.18.9 armv7l > # Hostname: 486 > auth_mechanisms = plain login > base_dir = /var/run/dovecot/ > default_client_limit = 30 > default_process_limit = 10 > disable_plaintext_auth = no > listen = * > log_path = /var/log/dovecot.txt > mail_gid = 0 > mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u > mail_uid = 0 > namespace { > hidden = no > inbox = yes > list = yes > location = > mailbox { > auto = create > special_use = \Drafts > name = Drafts > } > mailbox { > auto = create > special_use = \Sent > name = Sent > } > mailbox { > auto = create > special_use = \Trash > name = Trash > } > prefix = > type = private > name = inbox > } > passdb { > driver = passwd > } > passdb { > driver = shadow > } > protocols = imap > service replication-notify-fifo { > name = aggregator > } > service anvil-auth-penalty { > name = anvil > } > service auth-worker { > name = auth-worker > } > service auth-client { > name = auth > } > service config { > name = config > } > service dict-async { > name = dict-async > } > service dict { > name = dict > } > service login/proxy-notify { > name = director > } > service dns-client { > name = dns_client > } > service doveadm-server { > name = doveadm > } > service imap-hibernate { > name = imap-hibernate > } > service imap { > name = imap-login > } > service imap-urlauth { > name = imap-urlauth-login > } > service imap-urlauth-worker { > name = imap-urlauth-worker > } > service token-login/imap-urlauth { > name = imap-urlauth > } > service imap-master { > name = imap > } > service indexer-worker { > name = indexer-worker > } > service indexer { > name = indexer > } > service ipc { > name = ipc > } > service lmtp { > name = lmtp > } > service log-errors { > name = log > } > service old-stats-mail { > name = old-stats > } > service pop3 { > name = pop3-login > } > service login/pop3 { > name = pop3 > } > service replicator-doveadm { > name = replicator > } > service stats-reader { > name = stats > } > service submission { > name = submission-login > } > service login/submission { > name = submission > } > ssl = no > submission_max_mail_size = 0 > userdb { > driver = passwd > } > verbose_proctitle = yes > > -- > Selmeci, Tam?s > http://www.486.hu/
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 09:31:36 +0200 Gerald Galster <list+dovecot at gcore.biz> wrote:> most imap clients don't delete mails immediately, instead they are marked as deleted and expunged a few days or weeks later. > > From Sylpheed docs / Interface tab: https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/doc/manual/en/sylpheed-8.html > > ? If Execute immediately when moving or deleting messages is not selected, a new button appears in the button bar marked Execute. When deleting or moving messages, they are first marked as deleted or moved but Sylpheed does not move or delete them until you press the Execute button (or the Execute entry of the Tools menu).This setting is enabled in my Slypheed and mails don't disappear. Even if I switch this off and try to manually execute the expunge operation, the mails still remain.> You could check if the filename of a deleted email has changed in your maildir.Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, Dovecot is using mbox files on my machine.> This is old and may have been fixed: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208139I don't think it's relevant, since with the very same Sylpheed an older Dovecot (1.x) could erase the unneeded mails. Perhaps some file permission issue on my server...? Regards, -- Selmeci Tam?s http://www.486.hu/