I think we need a public compliance test, similar to html and ssl, then people would start questioning the quality of their own client, and migrate to better ones. When Micro$oft will eventually feel the pinch, then they will start fixing their $hit. People have the power! (I like that song.) On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 09:59, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at puchar.net> wrote:>> >> As I have no control over their minds, hands, and client software, I wish I could enforce the policy from the server, returning an >> error message to the client. >> >> On its turn, this requires the client to listen to such server messages, operated by a smarter user. > > the problem with pseudomail pseudoprogram outlook is that it simply > ignores error and shows folder created, then even allow to store messages > in it (store it locally in temporary file). > > When file is deleted messages are lost. > >> >> At the end of the day, it feels like we are re-discovering the wheel, as such problems should have been addressed and solved long >> ago by an RFC. >> >> Listescape is a welcome patch. Let see if it works. I just have to select a character that no user could type and still practical >> for the filesystem to use... >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:07, Timo Sirainen <tss at iki.fi> wrote: >> On 28 Sep 2018, at 16.44, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at puchar.net> wrote: >> >> user attempts to create folders with / dovecot naturally cannot create it so it returns error but outlook of >> course "create" it and keep data in local store only. data is lost when you remove local store .pst file. >> >> The question is - can dovecot be configured so it will automatically replace slash in name with something >> else? >> >> >> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/Listescape maybe? >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20181002/48759c64/attachment-0001.html>
>On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 09:59, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at puchar.net> wrote: >>> >>> As I have no control over their minds, hands, and client software, I wish >>> I could enforce the policy from the server, returning an error message to >>> the client. >>> >>> On its turn, this requires the client to listen to such server messages, >>> operated by a smarter user. >>> >>> At the end of the day, it feels like we are re-discovering the wheel, as >>> such problems should have been addressed and solved long ago by an RFC. >>> >>> Listescape is a welcome patch. Let see if it works. I just have to select >>> a character that no user could type and still practical for the >>> filesystem to use... >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:07, Timo Sirainen <tss at iki.fi> wrote: >>> On 28 Sep 2018, at 16.44, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at puchar.net> wrote: >>> >>> user attempts to create folders with / dovecot naturally cannot create it >>> so it returns error but outlook of course "create" it and keep data in >>> local store only. data is lost when you remove local store .pst file. >>> >>> The question is - can dovecot be configured so it will automatically >>> replace slash in name with something else? >>> >>> >>> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/Listescape maybe?>> >> the problem with pseudomail pseudoprogram outlook is that it simply >> ignores error and shows folder created, then even allow to store messages >> in it (store it locally in temporary file). >> >> When file is deleted messages are lost. >>>On Tue, 02 Oct 2018 11:29:40 +0000, Rupert Gallagher stated:>I think we need a public compliance test, similar to html and ssl, then >people would start questioning the quality of their own client, and migrate >to better ones. When Micro$oft will eventually feel the pinch, then they >will start fixing their $hit. People have the power! (I like that song.)Nobody is going to stop using Outlook because some *.nix user has gotten his shorts up in a knot. Now, I did ask this question on a MS Outlook Tech Forum. One of the first responses I got was to ask exactly what Dovecot's response was to the attempt to create this folder; i.e., what error message or code was returned by Dovecot. I don't have the answer to that. If someone can supply me with the complete and accurate return code I will post that and see what transpires. By the way, could we please do away with the "TOP POSTING" on this thread. It seems rather counter productive to be bitching about the behavior of MS Outlook while a poster posts in an unsatisfactory manner. -- Jerry
> On 2 Oct 2018, at 15.28, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: >> > > Nobody is going to stop using Outlook because some *.nix user has gotten his > shorts up in a knot. Now, I did ask this question on a MS Outlook Tech Forum. > One of the first responses I got was to ask exactly what Dovecot's response > was to the attempt to create this folder; i.e., what error message or code > was returned by Dovecot. I don't have the answer to that. If someone can > supply me with the complete and accurate return code I will post that and see > what transpires. >A NO [CANNOT] Character not allowed in mailbox name: '/' (0.001 + 0.000 secs). Sami -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20181003/fd31980b/attachment.html>