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On 10 March 2018 at 14:49 John Fawcett <
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On 08/03/18 18:43, Peter Linss wrote:
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I just added an ECDSA certificate to my mail server using ssl_alt_cert (the
RSA certificate is specified by ssl_cert), both certificate files contain the
certificate and a single intermediate (which currently happens to be the same
intermediate from Let’s Encrypt).
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When connecting to the server using either RSA or ECDSA ciphers, the server
sends the proper certificate, but also sends two intermediates. Apparently it’s
reading the intermediate from both files and using both for all situations,
rather than using only the intermediate in the RSA file for RSA certificates,
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will be a bigger problem when Let’s Encrypt starts using ECDSA intermediates.
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Removing the intermediate from the ssl_alt_cert file solves the problem
(but then doesn’t allow an ECDSA intermediate to be specified).
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I believe that supplying multiple unrelated intermediate certificates is
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an incorrect behaviour, though I don't know if this is a problem that
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can be solved in Dovecot or has to be addressed in openssl itself.
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Do you get any issue in certificate validation in the client?
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You sure your cert file does not contain unrelated certificates?
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On 10/03/18 14:06, Aki Tuomi wrote:> >> On 10 March 2018 at 14:49 John Fawcett < john at voipsupport.it >> <mailto:john at voipsupport.it>> wrote: >> >> >> On 08/03/18 18:43, Peter Linss wrote: >>> I just added an ECDSA certificate to my mail server using >>> ssl_alt_cert (the RSA certificate is specified by ssl_cert), both >>> certificate files contain the certificate and a single intermediate >>> (which currently happens to be the same intermediate from Let?s >>> Encrypt). >>> When connecting to the server using either RSA or ECDSA ciphers, the >>> server sends the proper certificate, but also sends two >>> intermediates. Apparently it?s reading the intermediate from both >>> files and using both for all situations, rather than using only the >>> intermediate in the RSA file for RSA certificates, and the >>> intermediate in the ECDSA file for ECDSA certificates. I expect this >>> will be a bigger problem when Let?s Encrypt starts using ECDSA >>> intermediates. >>> Removing the intermediate from the ssl_alt_cert file solves the >>> problem (but then doesn?t allow an ECDSA intermediate to be specified). >> I believe that supplying multiple unrelated intermediate certificates is >> an incorrect behaviour, though I don't know if this is a problem that >> can be solved in Dovecot or has to be addressed in openssl itself. >> >> Do you get any issue in certificate validation in the client? >> >> John > > You sure your cert file does not contain unrelated certificates? > --- > Aki TuomiAki I'll leave Peter to respond about his cert files, but in the test I did, each the ssl_cert and ssl_alt_cert each contained the server cert and the next cert in the chain. However, both intermediates were supplied whether using RSA or ECDSA. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20180310/03cd2003/attachment.html>
On 10/03/18 14:20, John Fawcett wrote:> On 10/03/18 14:06, Aki Tuomi wrote: >> >>> On 10 March 2018 at 14:49 John Fawcett < john at voipsupport.it >>> <mailto:john at voipsupport.it>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 08/03/18 18:43, Peter Linss wrote: >>>> I just added an ECDSA certificate to my mail server using >>>> ssl_alt_cert (the RSA certificate is specified by ssl_cert), both >>>> certificate files contain the certificate and a single intermediate >>>> (which currently happens to be the same intermediate from Let?s >>>> Encrypt). >>>> When connecting to the server using either RSA or ECDSA ciphers, >>>> the server sends the proper certificate, but also sends two >>>> intermediates. Apparently it?s reading the intermediate from both >>>> files and using both for all situations, rather than using only the >>>> intermediate in the RSA file for RSA certificates, and the >>>> intermediate in the ECDSA file for ECDSA certificates. I expect >>>> this will be a bigger problem when Let?s Encrypt starts using ECDSA >>>> intermediates. >>>> Removing the intermediate from the ssl_alt_cert file solves the >>>> problem (but then doesn?t allow an ECDSA intermediate to be >>>> specified). >>> I believe that supplying multiple unrelated intermediate >>> certificates is >>> an incorrect behaviour, though I don't know if this is a problem that >>> can be solved in Dovecot or has to be addressed in openssl itself. >>> >>> Do you get any issue in certificate validation in the client? >>> >>> John >> >> You sure your cert file does not contain unrelated certificates? >> --- >> Aki Tuomi > > Aki > > I'll leave Peter to respond about his cert files, but in the test I > did, each the ssl_cert and ssl_alt_cert each contained the server cert > and the next cert in the chain. However, both intermediates were > supplied whether using RSA or ECDSA. > > John >May need to look into using SSL_CTX_add1_chain_cert() instead of SSL_CTX_add_extra_chain_cert() John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20180310/6492771f/attachment.html>
> On 10 March 2018 at 15:20 John Fawcett <john at voipsupport.it> wrote: > > > On 10/03/18 14:06, Aki Tuomi wrote: > > > >> On 10 March 2018 at 14:49 John Fawcett < john at voipsupport.it > >> <mailto:john at voipsupport.it>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 08/03/18 18:43, Peter Linss wrote: > >>> I just added an ECDSA certificate to my mail server using > >>> ssl_alt_cert (the RSA certificate is specified by ssl_cert), both > >>> certificate files contain the certificate and a single intermediate > >>> (which currently happens to be the same intermediate from Let?s > >>> Encrypt). > >>> When connecting to the server using either RSA or ECDSA ciphers, the > >>> server sends the proper certificate, but also sends two > >>> intermediates. Apparently it?s reading the intermediate from both > >>> files and using both for all situations, rather than using only the > >>> intermediate in the RSA file for RSA certificates, and the > >>> intermediate in the ECDSA file for ECDSA certificates. I expect this > >>> will be a bigger problem when Let?s Encrypt starts using ECDSA > >>> intermediates. > >>> Removing the intermediate from the ssl_alt_cert file solves the > >>> problem (but then doesn?t allow an ECDSA intermediate to be specified). > >> I believe that supplying multiple unrelated intermediate certificates is > >> an incorrect behaviour, though I don't know if this is a problem that > >> can be solved in Dovecot or has to be addressed in openssl itself. > >> > >> Do you get any issue in certificate validation in the client? > >> > >> John > > > > You sure your cert file does not contain unrelated certificates? > > --- > > Aki Tuomi > > Aki > > I'll leave Peter to respond about his cert files, but in the test I did, > each the ssl_cert and ssl_alt_cert each contained the server cert and > the next cert in the chain. However, both intermediates were supplied > whether using RSA or ECDSA. > > John >I can confirm this behaviour. We'll look into it. Aki
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