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Chris Stankevitz

2017-Mar-05 00:41 UTC

Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

Hi,

I have been using this setup for years:

mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~

I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be 
different.  I plan to use this:

mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~/mail

I would like the transition to be transparent for my email clients.  I 
don't want mail/directories/sieve_scripts to disappear.

1. Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?

2. Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail? 
Which files?  (In other words: which files are "home directory" files 
and which files are "mail files"?)

Thank you,

Chris

Example home directory:

drwx------	.
drwxr-xr-x	..
drwx------	.Archives
drwx------	.Archives.2016
drwx------	.Archives.2017
drwx------	.Drafts
drwx------	.Junk
drwx------	.Notes
drwx------	.Sent
drwx------	.Sent
drwx------	.Trash
drwx------	.work
drwx------	.home
drwx------	.todo
lrwx------	.dovecot.sieve
-rw-------	.dovecot.sieve.log
-rw-------	.dovecot.sieve.log.0
-rw-------	.dovecot.svbin
drwx------	cur
-rw-------	dovecot-keywords
-rw-------	dovecot-uidlist
-rw-------	dovecot-uidvalidity
-r--r--r--	dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048
-rw-------	dovecot.index
-rw-------	dovecot.index.cache
-rw-------	dovecot.index.log
-rw-------	dovecot.mailbox.log
drwx------	new
drwx------	sieve
-rw-------	subscriptions
drwx------	tmp

$ dovecot -n
# 2.2.27 (c0f36b0): /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.4.16 (fed8554)
# OS: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 amd64
lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes
mail_gid = 1002
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~
mail_privileged_group = vpostfix
mail_uid = 1002
managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope 
encoded-character vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric 
relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify 
environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate mime foreverypart extracttext
namespace inbox {
   inbox = yes
   location    mailbox Drafts {
     special_use = \Drafts
   }
   mailbox Junk {
     special_use = \Junk
   }
   mailbox Sent {
     special_use = \Sent
   }
   mailbox "Sent Messages" {
     special_use = \Sent
   }
   mailbox Trash {
     special_use = \Trash
   }
   prefix }
passdb {
   args = scheme=CRYPT username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
   driver = passwd-file
}
plugin {
   recipient_delimiter = -
   sieve = file:~/sieve;active=~/.dovecot.sieve
}
protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve
recipient_delimiter = -
service auth {
   unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth {
     group = postfix
     mode = 0666
     user = postfix
   }
   unix_listener auth-userdb {
     group = postfix
     mode = 0600
     user = postfix
   }
}
service lmtp {
   unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp {
     group = postfix
     mode = 0666
     user = postfix
   }
}
service managesieve-login {
   inet_listener sieve {
     port = 4190
   }
}
ssl_cert = xxx
ssl_key =  xxx
userdb {
   args = username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
   driver = passwd-file
}
protocol lmtp {
   mail_plugins = " sieve"
   postmaster_address = xxx
}
protocol lda {
   mail_plugins = " sieve"
}

Charles Marcus

2017-Mar-05 16:28 UTC

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I can't provide specific details as I'm on the road, but I successfully
used mmv utility to accomplish something similar - changed mail home from
domain/local at domain to just domain/local for about 65 users, took less than a
second once I worked out the command (it supports wildcards) . The tricky part
was changing the sql backend (was using postfixadmin) after the mmv - I ended up
just dumping the sql db, editing the file, then pausing postfix/dovecot,
performing the mmv, then restoring the db, and restarted postfix/dovecot, was
down for maybe 20 seconds or less...

On March 4, 2017 7:41:53 PM EST, Chris Stankevitz <chris at
stankevitz.com> wrote:>Hi,
>
>I have been using this setup for years:
>
>mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
>mail_location = maildir:~
>
>I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be 
>different.  I plan to use this:
>
>mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
>mail_location = maildir:~/mail
>
>I would like the transition to be transparent for my email clients.  I 
>don't want mail/directories/sieve_scripts to disappear.
>
>1. Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?
>
>2. Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail?
>
>Which files?  (In other words: which files are "home directory"
files
>and which files are "mail files"?)
>
>Thank you,
>
>Chris
>
>Example home directory:
>
>drwx------	.
>drwxr-xr-x	..
>drwx------	.Archives
>drwx------	.Archives.2016
>drwx------	.Archives.2017
>drwx------	.Drafts
>drwx------	.Junk
>drwx------	.Notes
>drwx------	.Sent
>drwx------	.Sent
>drwx------	.Trash
>drwx------	.work
>drwx------	.home
>drwx------	.todo
>lrwx------	.dovecot.sieve
>-rw-------	.dovecot.sieve.log
>-rw-------	.dovecot.sieve.log.0
>-rw-------	.dovecot.svbin
>drwx------	cur
>-rw-------	dovecot-keywords
>-rw-------	dovecot-uidlist
>-rw-------	dovecot-uidvalidity
>-r--r--r--	dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048
>-rw-------	dovecot.index
>-rw-------	dovecot.index.cache
>-rw-------	dovecot.index.log
>-rw-------	dovecot.mailbox.log
>drwx------	new
>drwx------	sieve
>-rw-------	subscriptions
>drwx------	tmp
>
>$ dovecot -n
># 2.2.27 (c0f36b0): /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
># Pigeonhole version 0.4.16 (fed8554)
># OS: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 amd64
>lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes
>mail_gid = 1002
>mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
>mail_location = maildir:~
>mail_privileged_group = vpostfix
>mail_uid = 1002
>managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
>managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope 
>encoded-character vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric 
>relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify 
>environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate mime foreverypart
>extracttext
>namespace inbox {
>   inbox = yes
>   location >   mailbox Drafts {
>     special_use = \Drafts
>   }
>   mailbox Junk {
>     special_use = \Junk
>   }
>   mailbox Sent {
>     special_use = \Sent
>   }
>   mailbox "Sent Messages" {
>     special_use = \Sent
>   }
>   mailbox Trash {
>     special_use = \Trash
>   }
>   prefix >}
>passdb {
>   args = scheme=CRYPT username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
>   driver = passwd-file
>}
>plugin {
>   recipient_delimiter = -
>   sieve = file:~/sieve;active=~/.dovecot.sieve
>}
>protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve
>recipient_delimiter = -
>service auth {
>   unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth {
>     group = postfix
>     mode = 0666
>     user = postfix
>   }
>   unix_listener auth-userdb {
>     group = postfix
>     mode = 0600
>     user = postfix
>   }
>}
>service lmtp {
>   unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp {
>     group = postfix
>     mode = 0666
>     user = postfix
>   }
>}
>service managesieve-login {
>   inet_listener sieve {
>     port = 4190
>   }
>}
>ssl_cert = xxx
>ssl_key =  xxx
>userdb {
>   args = username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
>   driver = passwd-file
>}
>protocol lmtp {
>   mail_plugins = " sieve"
>   postmaster_address = xxx
>}
>protocol lda {
>   mail_plugins = " sieve"
>}
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

chaouche yacine

2017-Mar-06 08:06 UTC

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Hi Chris,
>I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be 
>different.  I plan to use this:
I'm interested about any sources for this ? 


I find dovecot to be very flexible, so much that you can actual have the home
dir inside the maildir instead of the traditional other way around, which is
actually my setup !



In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/auth-sql.conf.ext 

userdb {
driver = static
args = uid=vmail gid=vmail home=/var/vmail/%d/%n/dovecot
}




In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
mail_location = Maildir:~/../




So in my case, the maildir is /var/vmail/%d/%n/ and the home dir is inside the
maildir in a directory I named dovecot (home=/var/vmail/%d/%n/dovecot). This is
because I migrated from courier which had the maildir directly in
/var/vmail/%d/%n/, but since sieve scripts are also put there they are presented
as maildir folders (which they're not of course), and this confused my
users. So I used this little trick to hide the sieve scripts inside the dovecot
directory and still have them working correctly.

   -- Yassine.

chaouche yacine

2017-Mar-06 08:13 UTC

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It's even listed as a possible setup in dovecot's wiki, see :
http://genius.it/wiki.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers/Home (annotated version).

  -- Yassine.

Alex JOST

2017-Mar-06 09:02 UTC

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Am 06.03.2017 um 09:06 schrieb chaouche yacine:> Hi Chris,
>
>> I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be
>
>> different.  I plan to use this:
>
> I'm interested about any sources for this ?
http://wiki.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers/Home

	"Home directory shouldn't be the same as mail directory with mbox or 
Maildir formats (but with dbox/obox it's fine). It's possible to do 
that, but you might run into trouble with it sooner or later."

-- 
Alex JOST

Steffen Kaiser

2017-Mar-06 12:46 UTC

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
> mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
> mail_location = maildir:~/mail
the default for maildir-type would be ~/Maildir :-) that enables 
auto-detection as well.
> 1. Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?
>
> 2. Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail?
Which
> files?  (In other words: which files are "home directory" files
and which
> files are "mail files"?)
> drwx------	.
> drwxr-xr-x	..
> drwx------	.Archives
any dir with dot at the beginning except . and ..
> drwx------	cur
> drwx------	new
> drwx------	tmp
these dirs hold the messages of the INBOX
> -rw-------	dovecot-keywords
> -rw-------	dovecot-uidlist
> -rw-------	dovecot-uidvalidity
> -r--r--r--	dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048
> -rw-------	dovecot.index
> -rw-------	dovecot.index.cache
> -rw-------	dovecot.index.log
> -rw-------	dovecot.mailbox.log
> -rw-------	subscriptions
make it:
dovecot.index* dovecot-uid*
You do not seem to use mailbox sharing or ACLs, those features would add 
some other entries.

==
These not! They belong to Sieve in home:
> lrwx------      .dovecot.sieve
> -rw-------      .dovecot.sieve.log
> -rw-------      .dovecot.sieve.log.0
> -rw-------      .dovecot.svbin
> drwx------	sieve
Keep any directory without leading dot (except cur, new,& tmp) in home as 
well.

- -- 
Steffen Kaiser
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