dovecot - Jun 2016 - Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP

Thanks again Jan.

I appear to have basic LMTP working now (messages are delivered to virtual
mailboxes of valid recipients and non-existent recipients are rejected).
Cool.  Still lots more work to do.

But I think I could really use the Dovecot book.  I find the wiki to be
lacking in explanation.  So, too often I'm just copying without knowing the
reason why or how some things fit together.

Peer:  Is there any way to get an English copy of your book?

Michael


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org] On Behalf Of
"Jan
> B?ren"
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 12:53 PM
> To: dovecot at dovecot.org
> Cc: Peer Heinlein <p.heinlein at heinlein-support.de>
> Subject: RE: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP
> 
> Hi Michael,
> we?ll actually the author is reading this list as well.
> Maybe he can help out here (cc).
> As far as I know went the publisher bancrupt and that?s why currently
> further prints and next books are delayed.
> 
> @Peer: Anyway, is there a english copy? More or less I am refering to the
> chapter LMTP with dovecot and postfix.
> 
> Hmm, just with the information in the dovecot wiki, there is at least the
> postfix part missing:
> http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixDovecotLMTP
> 
> Best luck,
> > Thanks Jan.
> >
> > I've been trying to obtain an English copy of the Dovecot book for
> months,
> > prior to starting this project.  So far, I just can't find a copy.
It's
> > too
> > bad that the author/publisher won't do a second printing or, if
they're
> > not
> > interested in making any more money, then release it to the public
> domain
> > as
> > a PDF.  Very frustrating.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org] On Behalf Of
"Jan
> >> B?ren"
> >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:00 AM
> >> To: dovecot at dovecot.org
> >> Subject: Re: Postfix and Dovecot LDA vs. LMTP
> >>
> >> Hi Michael,
> >>
> >> > I'd appreciate comments from experienced users of postfix
with
> >> dovecot.
> >> > Are
> >> > you using Dovecot LDA or LMTP and why?
> >> I have LMTP with dovecot running on Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 16.04.
> >>
> >> LDA is the worser solution, this is best explained in chapter LTMP
in
> >> Peers dovecot book, which is unluckily in german and more or less
out
> of
> >> print.
> >>
> >> But you can easily grasp the configuration details and reverse
engineer
> >> the technical german phrases ...
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks much,
> >> >
> >> > Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >
> 
> 
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On 2016-06-25 23:56, Michael Fox wrote:
> Peer:  Is there any way to get an English copy of your book?
imho wiki is the way to go to be up2date with information, else it would 
make more sense to make more informative man pages in dovecot, that will 
never be outdated

that sayed i am intrested in the book aswell

> imho wiki is the way to go to be up2date with information, else it would
> make more sense to make more informative man pages in dovecot, that will
> never be outdated
I agree that the wiki is useful and important.  It just doesn't have any
depth regarding the "why" and "how" part of the equation. 
For example, WHY
LMTP vs. LDA (just one example).  There are many config snippets with a
couple of lines of explanation and not much about how they fit into the big
picture.  And some config examples (like the default_fields and
override_fields issue I reported earlier) simply don't work.

In the Postfix world, there is an old Postfix book (older than Peer's book)
which goes into a lot of the "why" and "how".  It takes you
through the
whole process from nothing to a full-fledged server and really gives you the
big picture.  All of that is still valid today.  Then the postfix website is
the place to go for up-to-date description of each config option.  Even
there, the web pages contain much more descriptive information about each
config option -- how it's used, when, why, side-effects, etc.

If I knew what I was doing, I'd offer to help add to the wiki.  But as a
newbie, I don't even know what I don't know.  ;-)

So I'm hoping that Peer's book will provide that overall big-picture and
that I can find an English copy somehow.

Michael