dovecot - May 2016 - Is there a way to override Sieve's "not sending notification for auto-submitted message" behavior?

Goal:

1) Setup a Google Calendar entry for a biweekly task
2) Configure the email notification schedule
3) When the email notification from Google arrives have Sieve send a
notification to an alias I have setup for my cell provider's email to
text messaging gateway
4) Receive text message

I know there are other products which likely handle this better, but I'm
specifically attempting to replicate old behavior by getting text
message reminders when a specific Google Calendar event occurs.

The problem I'm having is that Sieve is attempting to help by NOT
sending a notification for emails that it finds are automatically
generated. I didn't found a lot of information when I searched for
additional details, but I didn't find an earlier message thread on this
list that led me to believe that the default behavior is likely chosen
as some sort of safety net to prevent common issues from occurring.

What I would like to do is override this behavior at some level (per
rule, per user, system-wide, whatever) to allow for Sieve notifications
when emails matching a specific pattern are detected regardless of
whether they are auto-generated or not.

I already found mention in the documentation[1] that the editheader
extension refuses to remove the Auto-Submitted header, so setting up a
per user or global rule to do just that wouldn't help. I also haven't
come upon a way to simply modify the value for the Auto-Submitted
header, so that doesn't look to work in this situation either.

Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this? Thanks in advance for your
help!

[1] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/Extensions/Editheader

On 05/05/2016 01:00 AM, deoren wrote:
> Goal:
>
> 1) Setup a Google Calendar entry for a biweekly task
> 2) Configure the email notification schedule
> 3) When the email notification from Google arrives have Sieve send a
> notification to an alias I have setup for my cell provider's email to
> text messaging gateway
> 4) Receive text message
>
> I know there are other products which likely handle this better, but
I'm
> specifically attempting to replicate old behavior by getting text
> message reminders when a specific Google Calendar event occurs.
>
> The problem I'm having is that Sieve is attempting to help by NOT
> sending a notification for emails that it finds are automatically
> generated. I didn't found a lot of information when I searched for
> additional details, but I didn't find an earlier message thread on this
> list that led me to believe that the default behavior is likely chosen
> as some sort of safety net to prevent common issues from occurring.
>
> What I would like to do is override this behavior at some level (per
> rule, per user, system-wide, whatever) to allow for Sieve notifications
> when emails matching a specific pattern are detected regardless of
> whether they are auto-generated or not.
>
> I already found mention in the documentation[1] that the editheader
> extension refuses to remove the Auto-Submitted header, so setting up a
> per user or global rule to do just that wouldn't help. I also
haven't
> come upon a way to simply modify the value for the Auto-Submitted
> header, so that doesn't look to work in this situation either.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this? Thanks in advance for your
> help!
>
> [1] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/Extensions/Editheader
If you can't do it with dovecot / pigeonhole then consider doing something
in the MTA like removing the Auto-Submitted header before delivery, or of course
you can just send your notification out of there.
Which MTA are you using?

On 5/5/2016 10:42 AM, Gedalya wrote:
> On 05/05/2016 01:00 AM, deoren wrote:
>> Goal:
>>
>> 1) Setup a Google Calendar entry for a biweekly task
>> 2) Configure the email notification schedule
>> 3) When the email notification from Google arrives have Sieve send a
>> notification to an alias I have setup for my cell provider's email
to
>> text messaging gateway
>> 4) Receive text message
>>
>> ...
>>
> If you can't do it with dovecot / pigeonhole then consider doing
something in the MTA like removing the Auto-Submitted header before delivery
Thank you for taking the time to read my email and offer suggestions!

I was starting to think the same thing. I've been thinking about using a
local alias to pipe to a script to handle generating my own notifications for
Google Calendar emails. I also thought about creating some sort of filter/milter
to just strip out the header for those emails before letting the Sieve filter
handle the rest, but I've not yet had a chance to research just how to go
about that.
> or of course you can just send your notification out of there.
Like I mentioned above or is there a better way to go about it?
> Which MTA are you using?
>
I'm using Postfix 2.11.x + Dovecot 2.2.x to handle our mail.

Thanks again for your help!