> On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 09:18, Nikolaos Milas <nmilas at noa.gr> wrote: >> >> Another option is to migrate to an RHEL 8 -compatible OS, like Rocky >> Linux, AlmaLinux, Oracle Linux, Springdale Linux. >> >> (I remind that CentOS Stream is no more a RHEL 8 twin.) >> >> I have already migrated successfully all my CentOS 8 boxes to Rocky. (I >> am informed that in Academic Institutions in Greece -at least-, SysAdmin >> teams have also selected Rocky to migrate from CentOS 8.) >> >> Rocky seems to be gaining momentum as the main CentOS 8 successor. >> > > Going off of EPEL8 client use meters, it is still a fair tie between > Rocky usage and Alma usage. > > Date | OS Name | Number of systems longer than 2 weeks old (so > probably not CI/Containers) > 2021-11-01 | Red Hat Enterprise Linux | 119625 > 2021-11-01 | CentOS Linux | 461424 > 2021-11-01 | CentOS Stream | 56902 > 2021-11-01 | Oracle Linux | 20683 > 2021-11-01 | AlmaLinux | 25880 > 2021-11-01 | Rocky | 28167These figures are interesting but they can not be compared directly. Oracle has its own EPEL repo and therefore I guess that the number here shows only those who are using the official EPEL instead of the one provided by Oracle. That said, I expect that the true number of Oracle Linux installations is quite a bit higher than what we see here. Even more interesting and worrying is the still growing number of CentOS Linux 8 installations ;) Regards, Simon
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 10:04, Simon Matter <simon.matter at invoca.ch> wrote:> > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 09:18, Nikolaos Milas <nmilas at noa.gr> wrote: > >> > >> Another option is to migrate to an RHEL 8 -compatible OS, like Rocky > >> Linux, AlmaLinux, Oracle Linux, Springdale Linux. > >> > >> (I remind that CentOS Stream is no more a RHEL 8 twin.) > >> > >> I have already migrated successfully all my CentOS 8 boxes to Rocky. (I > >> am informed that in Academic Institutions in Greece -at least-, SysAdmin > >> teams have also selected Rocky to migrate from CentOS 8.) > >> > >> Rocky seems to be gaining momentum as the main CentOS 8 successor. > >> > > > > Going off of EPEL8 client use meters, it is still a fair tie between > > Rocky usage and Alma usage. > > > > Date | OS Name | Number of systems longer than 2 weeks old (so > > probably not CI/Containers) > > 2021-11-01 | Red Hat Enterprise Linux | 119625 > > 2021-11-01 | CentOS Linux | 461424 > > 2021-11-01 | CentOS Stream | 56902 > > 2021-11-01 | Oracle Linux | 20683 > > 2021-11-01 | AlmaLinux | 25880 > > 2021-11-01 | Rocky | 28167 > > These figures are interesting but they can not be compared directly. > Oracle has its own EPEL repo and therefore I guess that the number here > shows only those who are using the official EPEL instead of the one > provided by Oracle. That said, I expect that the true number of Oracle > Linux installations is quite a bit higher than what we see here. >Correct and my deepest apologies for not saying so. I usually list the Oracle caveat and I forgot to do so. The Oracle numbers are a lower bound at best as it requires someone to install and/or convert to Oracle and then use an upstream epel-release. Most Oracle users will be using their rebuild of EPEL.> Even more interesting and worrying is the still growing number of CentOS > Linux 8 installations ;) > > Regards, > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren
Il 2021-11-15 16:03 Simon Matter ha scritto:> These figures are interesting but they can not be compared directly. > Oracle has its own EPEL repo and therefore I guess that the number here > shows only those who are using the official EPEL instead of the one > provided by Oracle. That said, I expect that the true number of Oracle > Linux installations is quite a bit higher than what we see here.Personal note: I am currently using Rocky, but I am very tempted by Oracle Linux also. It has working secure boot and a proven update track record (with security metadata for yum, which Rocky only recently started providing). It also has an officially supported upgrade path between major releases. The only thing stopping my adoption is Oracle "the company". But, maybe, it is an irrational fear... That aside, can I ask how is the EPEL-8 situation now? I remember that one years ago many packages were missing compared to, say, EPEL-7. Is the current situation better? Regards. -- Danti Gionatan Supporto Tecnico Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it email: g.danti at assyoma.it - info at assyoma.it GPG public key ID: FF5F32A8