Nicolas Kovacs
2021-Jul-20 15:03 UTC
[CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream
Le 19/07/2021 ? 21:38, Johnny Hughes a ?crit?:> Yes, some items, if you really need 10 years, would require Alma or > Rocky or Oracle if you don't want to pay for RHEL.Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've all been using "classic" CentOS in the first place. -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12
Valeri Galtsev
2021-Jul-20 15:30 UTC
[CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream
On 7/20/21 10:03 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> Le 19/07/2021 ? 21:38, Johnny Hughes a ?crit?: >> Yes, some items, if you really need 10 years, would require Alma or >> Rocky or Oracle if you don't want to pay for RHEL. > > Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've > all been using "classic" CentOS in the first place. >I have been there for the same reason solely. Switching to "rolling release" style distribution (Like Debian and clones, or FreeBSD - the last is no Linux ;-) will occasionally require a but of work when some component steps up and does need a bit of config adjustment, but it pays off by smooth in-place upgrade (which I just did on one box from Debian 9 "stretch" to Debian 10 "buster", and was doing FreeBSD upgrades same smoothly through multiple releases during last decade...) Just my 2 cents. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ian Mortimer
2021-Jul-20 21:32 UTC
[CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've > all been using "classic" CentOS in the first place.We've been using the 10 year support to convince researchers to install CentOS instead of their preferred option Ubuntu. We've now lost that argument so most will go to Ubuntu. Those who need 10 year support will move to Oracle. -- Ian
Johnny Hughes
2021-Jul-23 18:13 UTC
[CentOS] Difference between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream
On 7/20/21 10:03 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> Le 19/07/2021 ? 21:38, Johnny Hughes a ?crit?: >> Yes, some items, if you really need 10 years, would require Alma or >> Rocky or Oracle if you don't want to pay for RHEL. > > Low risk updates over a ten year support cycle are the number one reason we've > all been using "classic" CentOS in the first place. >And it was 7 years before it was 10 .. so 5 could certainly be good enough for most people. But not everyone. Again .. I couldn't care less what anyone uses or how they feel about things i can't control. I am just saying, for the vast majority of users, 5 years is OK and Steam is good enough and stable enough to use. RHEL is based off it, it must be good enough. Not trying to start a philosophical debate or a tread on how someone is offended by such and such release date changing, etc. Just stating that Stream is good enough for almost anyone to use. It has a lifetime as good as Debian or Ubuntu LTS .. it gets security updates in a timely manner. If it doesn't meet your needs (not you in particular Nicolas .. YOU in the larger / plural sense) .. then use something that does.