CentOS - Jul 2021 - [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

On 14/07/2021 07:28, Toralf Lund wrote:
> On 13/07/2021 14:23, Phil Perry wrote:
>> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
>>>
>>> I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked
reasonably
>>> well. However, after upgrading to the latest version from the 
>>> Microsoft repos, it doesn't start up properly. Processes start
and
>>> remain active until I give up and kill them, but I can't see a
window
>>> or a tray icon or anything.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make the
GUI
>>> appear?
>>>
>>> This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I revert to
>>> the previous release, but it would be interesting to know if this
is
>>> a general problem with the software, or I have some weird issue
with
>>> my system.
>>>
>>> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that
does is
>>> 1.4.00.7556.
>>>
>>> - Toralf
>>>
>>
>> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum 
>> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update 
>> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
> 
> OK. Do you know what dependencies that might be? Just out of interest...
> 
> I've never had any issues like that. Like I said, the latest (?)
version
> installs just fine on my system, it's just that it doesn't do
anything
> useful.
> 
>>
>> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would
be
>> helpful.
> 
> Well, it would be kind of interesting...
> 
> - T
> 
My currently installed/working version is:
# rpm -qa | grep teams
teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64

and when I attempt a yum update, I get:

Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.7556-1 will be updated
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.13653-1 will be an update
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
            Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
            Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
            Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
            Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
            Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)


So Teams now needs a newer version of libstdc++ than that in RHEL7. As 
others have mentioned, Microsoft clearly do not understand how to 
package software using RPM and you are probably better off with a 
snap/flatpak solution.

--Phil

Once upon a time, Phil Perry <pperry at elrepo.org>
said:
> So Teams now needs a newer version of libstdc++ than that in RHEL7.
> As others have mentioned, Microsoft clearly do not understand how to
> package software using RPM and you are probably better off with a
> snap/flatpak solution.
Umm, I would say that there is a proper dependency on a required
library, they do understand how to package software using RPM.  They're
just choosing to build on a newer OS version that has dependencies that
aren't handled on CentOS 7.

I don't know if they specify supported distributions anywhere (I didn't
find a list in a quick search), so don't think they claim that CentOS 7
is supported.  I think they just say "here's an RPM" and
"here's a
repo".

-- 
Chris Adams <linux at cmadams.net>

On 15/07/21 8:13 am, Phil Perry wrote:
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
>  ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
>  ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
>  ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
>  ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
>  ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)
Try this installing gcc10-libstdc++ from GhettoForge 
(https://ghettoforge.org/) and then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1

If you have a desktop launcher edit the launcher and prefix "env 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1 " to the command.

Then see if it works.


Peter

On 14/07/2021 22:13, Phil Perry wrote:
> On 14/07/2021 07:28, Toralf Lund wrote:
>> On 13/07/2021 14:23, Phil Perry wrote:
>>> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>>> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
>>>>
>>>> I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked
reasonably
>>>> well. However, after upgrading to the latest version from the 
>>>> Microsoft repos, it doesn't start up properly. Processes
start and
>>>> remain active until I give up and kill them, but I can't
see a
>>>> window or a tray icon or anything.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make
the
>>>> GUI appear?
>>>>
>>>> This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I
revert to
>>>> the previous release, but it would be interesting to know if
this
>>>> is a general problem with the software, or I have some weird
issue
>>>> with my system.
>>>>
>>>> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that
does is
>>>> 1.4.00.7556.
>>>>
>>>> - Toralf
>>>>
>>>
>>> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum
>>> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to
update
>>> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
>>
>> OK. Do you know what dependencies that might be? Just out of
interest...
>>
>> I've never had any issues like that. Like I said, the latest (?) 
>> version installs just fine on my system, it's just that it
doesn't do
>> anything useful.
>>
>>>
>>> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that
would be
>>> helpful.
>>
>> Well, it would be kind of interesting...
>>
>> - T
>>
>
> My currently installed/working version is:
> # rpm -qa | grep teams
> teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
OK. Thanks.

That's the one that works here, obviously.
>
> and when I attempt a yum update, I get:
>
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.7556-1 will be updated
> ---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.13653-1 will be an update
> --> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit) for 
> package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit) for 
> package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for 
> package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit) for 
> package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
> --> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit) for 
> package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
> ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
Which I don't see.

But I found out what's going on;

[toralf at localhost ~]$ rpm -q --whatprovides 
'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)'
chrome-deps-stable-3.13-1.x86_64
[toralf at localhost ~]$ rpm -ql chrome-deps-stable
/opt/google/chrome/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0
/opt/google/chrome/lib/libstdc++.so.6
/opt/google/chrome/lib/link-to-libgnome-keyring.so.0
/opt/google/chrome/modify_wrapper

The problem is, even though this package "provides" the lib, it's
not
available for general use, in that /opt/google/chrome/lib isn't added to 
the library path.

I believe this package was supposed to help you get around some kind of 
dependency issue with chrome packages from Google a long time ago. 
Offered as a quick-fix by someone associated with the Fedora project, 
but probably not included in any of the "usual" repos. I'd quite 
forgotten that I had this.

Didn't think to check this sooner; I guess I assumed that everything 
would be OK with the dependencies, since the processes did not fail with 
the runtime linker error you might expect. But I suppose the components 
are loaded in a somewhat more roundabout way, i.e. the teams executable 
is not actually linked to the new libstdc++ or anything that uses it.

- Toralf

> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
> ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
> ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
> ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
> Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
> ?????????? Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)
>
>
> So Teams now needs a newer version of libstdc++ than that in RHEL7. As 
> others have mentioned, Microsoft clearly do not understand how to 
> package software using RPM and you are probably better off with a 
> snap/flatpak solution.
>
> --Phil
>
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