CentOS - Jul 2021 - [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

On 14/07/2021 09:04, Simon Matter wrote:
>> On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:
>>> hi
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:
>>>> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
>>>>>
>>> <...>
>>>>> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one
that does
>>>>> is 1.4.00.7556.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Toralf
>>>>>
>>>> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two
yum
>>>> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to
update
>>>> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
>>>>
>>>> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that
would be
>>>> helpful.
>>> AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
>>> after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for c7
>>> (but one needs to have $HOME under /home).
>> OK.
>>
>> The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs. If
>> it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect
complaints about
>> the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...
>>
>> - Toralf
> Hi,
>
> I've seen a lot of commercial software to completely disable the
> dependency thing in their RPM packages. So you can always install it, it
> just doesn't work :)
I guess that's true.

But in that situation, you expect runtime errors. In this case, the 
application doesn't just install, it also starts and stays running for 
as long as I care to let it. It just doesn't do anything useful. Not as 
far as I can tell, anyway. I guess part of the question was if I'm 
missing something. Like, perhaps it doesn't open any windows by default, 
but there's some obscure way to make them come up...

- Toralf

>
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> On 14/07/2021 09:04, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:
>>>> hi
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:
>>>>> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
>>>>>>
>>>> <...>
>>>>>> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The
one that does
>>>>>> is 1.4.00.7556.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Toralf
>>>>>>
>>>>> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or
two yum
>>>>> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying
to update
>>>>> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if
that would be
>>>>> helpful.
>>>> AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is
teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
>>>> after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for
c7
>>>> (but one needs to have $HOME under /home).
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs.
If
>>> it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect
complaints about
>>> the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...
>>>
>>> - Toralf
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've seen a lot of commercial software to completely disable the
>> dependency thing in their RPM packages. So you can always install it,
it
>> just doesn't work :)
>
> I guess that's true.
>
> But in that situation, you expect runtime errors. In this case, the
> application doesn't just install, it also starts and stays running for
> as long as I care to let it. It just doesn't do anything useful. Not as
Maybe the same folks who disabled dependency tracking also disabled
logging... Or the software tries to call bluescreen() which obviously
doesn't exist on CentOS :)

Simon

Once upon a time, Toralf Lund <toralf.lund at pgs.com>
said:
> But in that situation, you expect runtime errors. In this case, the
> application doesn't just install, it also starts and stays running
> for as long as I care to let it. It just doesn't do anything useful.
> Not as far as I can tell, anyway. I guess part of the question was
> if I'm missing something. Like, perhaps it doesn't open any windows
> by default, but there's some obscure way to make them come up...
Like a number of "desktop apps" for web-based sites, Teams is an
Electron app.  That means it's really a package of Chrome plus the
site's client HTML/CSS/JavaScript, so you get all the fun bugs of
Chrome (with no way to upgrade it).  Microsoft's RPM does appear to have
all the proper RPM dependencies, so that's probably not the issue (as
long as it installs, they should be satisfied).

Have you run Teams before on this system?  If so, I've found that it
tends to bog down over time, which I suspect is something like it
growing a cache without bounds or the like.  If that's the case, I
suggest removing its data and re-logging in.  It looks like that
"~/.config/Microsoft/Microsoft Teams".

-- 
Chris Adams <linux at cmadams.net>