Valeri Galtsev
2021-Feb-02 23:21 UTC
[CentOS] not a Centos topic, but since many had concerns ......
On 2/2/21 5:10 PM, R C wrote:> > On 2/2/21 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 03:49:35PM -0700, R C wrote: >>> This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, >>> don't know. >>> >>> >>> "New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to >>> access RHEL" >>> >>> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel >>> >> It came out a few weeks ago but the program is live as of yesterday. >> >> In short: >> >> 1. Register at https://developers.redhat.com/register >> >> 2. You'll now see a developer subscription allowing up to 16 systems >> listed >> ??? at https://access.redhat.com/management/subscriptions >> >> 3. Download and install from >> https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download >> >> 4. sudo subscription-manager register --username $USERNAME >> ??? (where $USERNAME is the email address you registered with) >> >> and there you go. >> >> It says "Developer Subscription" but the new terms allow each >> individual to >> have up to 16 systems for production use. See the (single page) terms >> here: > > I would not use it for production, or commercial purposes, just so I > have the same at home (or close) as at work. I wonder, does that mean > you can have? up to 16 licensed servers/workstations running at a time? > Or over time, when you discard equipment, and need to install another > machine/desktop, whatever by the time you're at 17 start paying? >When I was thinking similar situation over - with different kind of proprietary product free up to some number... my sentiment ended up being: OK, I plan all my future well, and fit all into that restricted number, let's say 16. But what if at some point they change their mind and this number suddenly becomes 12. I definitely can not plan what in the future they will do. And specifically recent events showed that they do change things. And the I went free open source route. And never regretted. But it is everybody's individual decision, and those who make it will have only themselves to blame if ever get into trouble as the result. Incidentally, I for one blame myself that I have to change my routine from CentOS [to Debian]. Not that that is much of a hassle. This is not the first migration in my life, and hopefully not the last one ;-) - meaning long life for myself, not short life for Debian. Valeri> (I am checking that with a redhat rep that we have at work too). > > >> https://www.redhat.com/wapps/tnc/viewterms/72ce03fd-1564-41f3-9707-a09747625585?extIdCarryOver=true&sc_cid=701f2000001Css0AAC >> >> >> >> It may also be of interest to note something which I hadn't realized >> before: >> this subscription includes the "EUS" offering which provides security >> updates to select minor releases (so you can "pin" to that minor >> release), >> which is something CentOS never did. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 2/2/21 4:21 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > > On 2/2/21 5:10 PM, R C wrote: >> >> On 2/2/21 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 03:49:35PM -0700, R C wrote: >>>> This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, >>>> don't know. >>>> >>>> >>>> "New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to >>>> access RHEL" >>>> >>>> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel >>>> >>> It came out a few weeks ago but the program is live as of yesterday. >>> >>> In short: >>> >>> 1. Register at https://developers.redhat.com/register >>> >>> 2. You'll now see a developer subscription allowing up to 16 systems >>> listed >>> ??? at https://access.redhat.com/management/subscriptions >>> >>> 3. Download and install from >>> https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download >>> >>> 4. sudo subscription-manager register --username $USERNAME >>> ??? (where $USERNAME is the email address you registered with) >>> >>> and there you go. >>> >>> It says "Developer Subscription" but the new terms allow each >>> individual to >>> have up to 16 systems for production use. See the (single page) >>> terms here: >> >> I would not use it for production, or commercial purposes, just so I >> have the same at home (or close) as at work. I wonder, does that mean >> you can have? up to 16 licensed servers/workstations running at a >> time? Or over time, when you discard equipment, and need to install >> another machine/desktop, whatever by the time you're at 17 start paying? >> > > When I was thinking similar situation over - with different kind of > proprietary product free up to some number... my sentiment ended up > being: OK, I plan all my future well, and fit all into that restricted > number, let's say 16. But what if at some point they change their mind > and this number suddenly becomes 12. I definitely can not plan what in > the future they will do. And specifically recent events showed that > they do change things. > > And the I went free open source route. And never regretted. > > But it is everybody's individual decision, and those who make it will > have only themselves to blame if ever get into trouble as the result. > > Incidentally, I for one blame myself that I have to change my routine > from CentOS [to Debian]. Not that that is much of a hassle. This is > not the first migration in my life, and hopefully not the last one ;-) > - meaning long life for myself, not short life for Debian. > > Valeri >well, my point is not that I don't know what alternative to use, there is enough, I couldn't care less to use Ubuntu or something. (I actually have an Ubuntu machine as well as a Debian machine, for two very specific? applications.) The reason why I have some Centos stuff is because it is very close to Redhat, and where I work we use A LOT of redhat machines/servers/clusters, so it is just convenience. That is why I used Centos, and if this mechanism/program is available, well, I'll use that.> >> (I am checking that with a redhat rep that we have at work too). >> >> >>> https://www.redhat.com/wapps/tnc/viewterms/72ce03fd-1564-41f3-9707-a09747625585?extIdCarryOver=true&sc_cid=701f2000001Css0AAC >>> >>> >>> >>> It may also be of interest to note something which I hadn't realized >>> before: >>> this subscription includes the "EUS" offering which provides security >>> updates to select minor releases (so you can "pin" to that minor >>> release), >>> which is something CentOS never did. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >