On 21.01.2021 22:46, Victor Pereira wrote:> I see that this is as an impulse for Fedora so that we as users do not > leave RedHat after the news ... even so I still think how good it is for > the linux community this whole situation makes us a good shakeup. > Cheers,I wonder whether RH plan to fight back FUD they've brought upon by their December announcement. Personally, I found this "no-cost" promise lacking substantial details. If RH doesn't verify everyone requesting developer subscription (forcing to prove identity), the 16 installations limit is easily circumvented by multiple registrations. If they *do* request identity verification (i.e. copy of ID, phone, email, physical address... etc etc, up to last will in favor of RH), then I am even more uneasy having voluntarily provided them with personal data which are treasure for any marketing purpose they could imagine. Also, I can still expect they will again change their mind close to 2021's end. In short, I have hard time trusting RH in such a situation. JMNSHO. -- Sincerely, Konstantin Boyandin system administrator (ProWide Labs Ltd. - IPHost Network Monitor)
On 22/01/2021 12:25, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: <snip>> JMNSHO. >eh? -- J Martin Rushton MBCS
On 22/1/2021 2:25 ?.?., Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:> Also, I can still expect they will again change their mind close to > 2021's end. In short, I have hard time trusting RH in such a situation.That's exactly how I feel too. I don't trust them. I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while. There is such a huge (staggering) number of CentOS installed base, esp. including service providers (hosts etc.), that the market NEEDS a real reliable successor of CentOS. This need cannot be covered by RHEL new licensing. A real open source, community solution will be needed; for the time being, Rocky Linux seems to have the right specs to fill the gap. The market itself will finance (through donations) its future, because it is a real need. A CentOS successor is a real need. OL will be last resort, but I believe Rocky Linux will most probably be the way to go. It displays good momentum, steady progress and great manpower. My 2c. Nick
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:25:04AM -0500, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:> I wonder whether RH plan to fight back FUD they've brought upon by their > December announcement.I mean.... really the only thing we can do is live up to the given plan with Stream and RHEL options, which as far as I can see is exactly what's happening.> Personally, I found this "no-cost" promise lacking substantial details.This is just the announcement of it, of course. The full details will be there when the whole thing is launched, which the announcement says will be very soon.> If RH doesn't verify everyone requesting developer subscription (forcing > to prove identity), the 16 installations limit is easily circumvented by > multiple registrations.There are always going to be cheaters. Don't be one of them. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader