On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 05:23:24PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 17:15, Nicolas Kovacs <info at microlinux.fr> wrote: > > > > > > I think from years of posting that FreeBSD is how Valeri's brain works best > and that is cool. Some people have certain OS paradigms where they function > best and are able to solve problems better than another system.Like Valeri, I have a fondness for FreeBSD. Regardless, I think Nicolas is correct. I remember reading a post in an old usenet (I think) discussion of mutt vs. pine (before it became alpine) where someone said words to the effect of, People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify what is, in the end, an emotional decision. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
On 1/21/21 4:30 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 05:23:24PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 17:15, Nicolas Kovacs <info at microlinux.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> I think from years of posting that FreeBSD is how Valeri's brain works best >> and that is cool. Some people have certain OS paradigms where they function >> best and are able to solve problems better than another system. > > Like Valeri, I have a fondness for FreeBSD. Regardless, I think Nicolas is > correct. I remember reading a post in an old usenet (I think) discussion of > mutt vs. pine (before it became alpine) where someone said words to the > effect of, People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify > what is, in the end, an emotional decision.I learned one truth working for many years for scientists: the best thing is what works best for _YOU_, with which YOU are most efficient. I do keep bringing up FreeBSD, as I conscientiously switched servers to it. And during first maybe year I was catching myself with "Linuxisms" on FreeBSD. Later I often caught myself with "FreeBSD-isms" on Linux. But if your future road is long, then at the pivoting point it really is good to step up above everything and estimate (with open mind) what might be beneficial in your future. That is why I bring up non-Linux system I know (more or less). Were I knowing others as well (OpenBSD, NetBSD, ...) I would be mentioning them too. And all that in a hope it may help someone (and with understanding it may annoy many). Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 05:30:33PM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: Like Valeri, I have a fondness for FreeBSD. Regardless, I think Nicolas is correct. I remember reading a post in an old usenet (I think) discussion of mutt vs. pine (before it became alpine) where someone said words to the effect of, People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify what is, in the end, an emotional decision. Don't forget "elm" :-) :-)... And to make it even more complex: the outcome of all those half emotional, half technical decisions vary during the time. Projects may (slowly) die or get a huge momentum, licenses change (!), etc. -- -- Jos Vos <jos at xos.nl> -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Office: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Mobile: +31 6 26216181
Le 21/01/2021 ? 23:30, Scott Robbins a ?crit?:> People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify > what is, in the end, an emotional decision.There is, of course, the possibility to go beyond that. For example, I am not exactly fond of Oracle as a company, for reasons you probably know as good as me. They did some horrible things to Solaris, MySQL and Java, their CEO supported Trump, etc. But it also happens that they do have one of the better maintained RHEL clones out there, with fast updates and an excellent documentation. Of course our first response will always be more or less emotional (see Malcolm Gladwell's fascinating book "Blink" on the subject). But I think it's part of our work routine to recognize that and go beyond it. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12