CentOS - Jan 2021 - CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

Off topic for sure, but it's a shame this has to be a manual process of
destroying and rebuilding every X years. Even Microsoft has gone the Apple
way and just perpetually updates Windows 10 now.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 23:20, Gordon Messmer <gordon.messmer at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 1/5/21 3:02 PM, Jamie Burchell wrote:
> > We will need to (manually) migrate to Stream 9.x after 5 years instead
of
> > 10 though?
>
>
> Yes.  CentOS Stream has a lifecycle comparable with other LTS
> distributions.
>
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On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 11:31:34PM +0000, Jamie Burchell
wrote:
> Off topic for sure, but it's a shame this has to be a manual process of
> destroying and rebuilding every X years. Even Microsoft has gone the Apple
> way and just perpetually updates Windows 10 now.
I'm not sure how it will go. Fedora now has a very good upgrade tool that
has worked for me through a few versions.  So, hopefully, RH, and CentOS
will have one too, who knows, maybe in time to migrate to Stream-9.


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On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 6:32 PM Jamie Burchell <mail at jamieburchell.com>
wrote:
>
> Off topic for sure, but it's a shame this has to be a manual process of
> destroying and rebuilding every X years. Even Microsoft has gone the Apple
> way and just perpetually updates Windows 10 now.
>
      Do you use tools like ansible/chef? If you can put the time in,
you can make your webservers rather distro agnostic. I would even put
terraform on the table. It is not like your customers will know the
difference.
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 23:20, Gordon Messmer <gordon.messmer at
gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 1/5/21 3:02 PM, Jamie Burchell wrote:
> > > We will need to (manually) migrate to Stream 9.x after 5 years
instead of
> > > 10 though?
> >
> >
> > Yes.  CentOS Stream has a lifecycle comparable with other LTS
> > distributions.
> >
> >
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On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 11:31:34PM +0000, Jamie Burchell
wrote:
> Off topic for sure, but it's a shame this has to be a manual process of
> destroying and rebuilding every X years. Even Microsoft has gone the Apple
> way and just perpetually updates Windows 10 now.
Red Hat is working on this with a tool called "Leapp" for RHEL 7 to 8
upgrades. I have no idea if this or something similar is going to be
available for the Stream 8 to 9 transition, but it'd definitely be useful
and I think in everyone's interest (because Red Hat wants as many Stream
users as possible on the latest release).


https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/upgrading-rhel-7-rhel-8-leapp-and-boom

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