CentOS - Jan 2021 - CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

I guess we need to wait and see how the dust settles. For those lucky
enough to still be on CentOS 7, there's a bit of breathing space although
these things take time to plan and implement of course. Those unlucky
enough to have updated to CentOS 8 have less than a year to decide to move
to stream or another distro. It's a good job that there's not a global
pandemic disrupting work commitments so we have plenty of time to deal with
these decisions from above!

I'm sure it's my lack of understanding, but there feels too much hope
pinned on "Rocky", which seems like one person (albeit a key person)
going
it alone with the hope of a community following of disgruntled people. I
see a single readme file in the repo. I think I'd feel more comfortable
using Stream at this point.

The uncertainty is frustrating and unsettling.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 21:18, Scott Techlist <techlist06 at msxc.com>
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> The question for me, too is going to be, what will the VPS providers do?
> Digital Ocean, Vultur, etc.  I'll be at their mercy, without trying to
> create my own image, if that's even possible.
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> Hopefully something emerges as the popular replacement (e.g.
"Rocky"), and
> they support spinning up with the replacement.
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> Anyone have  agues/opinion on the most popular emerging path those
> providers will use, I'm all ears.
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM Jamie Burchell <mail at jamieburchell.com>
wrote:
> I'm sure it's my lack of understanding, but there feels too much
hope
> pinned on "Rocky", which seems like one person (albeit a key
person) going
> it alone with the hope of a community following of disgruntled people. I
> see a single readme file in the repo. I think I'd feel more comfortable
> using Stream at this point.
>
> The uncertainty is frustrating and unsettling.
>
If you still think Rocky is one guy going it alone then you haven't been
paying any attention to it at all. The slack that it started on is so
active that messages were falling off the 10k scroll back limit in a matter
of days. It's quieted down some since they have been making use of their
forums and working on moving to Mattermost, but that sure isn't the
activity of one person.

The repo you refer to is just a holding one, with the readme in many
translations. Go up one level and you'll see the 17 repos thay have for
infrastructure and other needs. https://github.com/rocky-linux

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 21:32:18 +0000
Jamie Burchell wrote:
> The uncertainty is frustrating and unsettling.
I certainly agree with you on this point!

Personally, while I haven't made an actual decision on which way I'm
going with my own projects, I'm currently leaning toward Oracle Linux.  I
installed it on a laptop a couple of days ago and what I got was exactly what I
get when I install Centos on a laptop.  Even my little script to convert a stock
installation into my custom setup worked as-is, and what I ended up with was
exactly what I was expecting to see.

I don't have any particular love for Oracle, but since they pay X number of
people to keep Oracle Linux current with RHEL and updated, they shouldn't
have any problems with burn-out or a lack of long-term interest on the part of
volunteers that may (or may not) become an issue over the course of time with a
community-driven distribution like Rocky.

But for the moment I'm more-or-less just sitting on my hands, waiting to see
how all of this shakes out over the course of the next few months before I take
any action to change anything.

Frankly, I'm kind of hoping that Rocky turns out to be "the new
Centos", but it seems too early in the game to make the decision to depend
on it.  That may change over the course of the next few months.

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