$ cat /etc/centos-release
CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core)
$ sudo systemctl status mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount
[sudo] password for fredex:
? mnt-backup.mount - /mnt/backup
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/fstab; bad; vendor preset: disabled)
   Active: active (mounted) since Sat 2021-01-02 22:20:05 EST; 14h ago
    Where: /mnt/backup
     What: /dev/sdc1
     Docs: man:fstab(5)
           man:systemd-fstab-generator(8)
    Tasks: 0
? mnt-backup.automount
   Loaded: loaded
   Active: inactive (dead)
    Where: /mnt/backup
[fredex at fcshome Desktop]$ systemctl cat mnt-backup.mount
mnt-backup.automount
No files found for mnt-backup.automount.
# /run/systemd/generator/mnt-backup.mount
# Automatically generated by systemd-fstab-generator
[Unit]
SourcePath=/etc/fstab
Documentation=man:fstab(5) man:systemd-fstab-generator(8)
RequiresOverridable=systemd-fsck at dev-disk-by
\x2duuid-259ec5ea\x2de8a4\x2d465a\x2
After=systemd-fsck at dev-disk-by
\x2duuid-259ec5ea\x2de8a4\x2d465a\x2d9263\x2d1c062
[Mount]
What=/dev/disk/by-uuid/259ec5ea-e8a4-465a-9263-1c06217b9aaf
Where=/mnt/backup
Type=ext4
Options=noauto
the fstab statement I put in my last posting was a copy/paste from
/etc/fstab, so it should be correct as shown. I don't see a comma before
noauto.
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:42 AM Strahil Nikolov <hunter86_bg at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Are you still on 7.6 ? I recently discovered that a bug in sysstat was
> fixed in 7.7 that prevented autofs from umounting the filesystem.
>
> The following should show if it's taking into action:
> systemctl status mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount
> systemctl cat mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount
>
>
> Are you sure that you got no "," before that "noauto" ?
>
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 16:25:47 ???????+2, Fred <
> fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????:
>
>
>
>
>
> Strahil:
>
> I WAS using that, but the automatic umount never worked, leaving it
> mounted all the time.
>
> I commented out those entries in /etc/auto.master before modifying the
> fstab entry:
>
> UUID=259ec5ea-e8a4-465a-9263-1c06217b9aaf       /mnt/backup
> ext4,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.idle-timeout=15min   noauto  0       2
>
> which is exactly as it was before except for the x-systemd entries as you
> described.
>
> and the peculiar thing is it STILL does not automount. and yes, I did do
> systemctl restart local-fs.target.
>
> do I need to reboot (or something simpler, maybe) to fully disable the
> auto.master stuff?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Fred
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:54 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS <
> centos at centos.org> wrote:
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> > do you use automatic umount for the map in /etc/auto.master
(--timeout) ?
> >
> > If yes, then the systemd mount options probably won't help.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Strahil Nikolov
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 04:27:17 ???????+2, Fred <
> fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, and the instructions for setting RAID-1 or RAID-0 have the
switch
> > positions exactly reversed.
> >
> > Strahil: I'm using autofs to automount the unit. but just turned
that off
> > and enabled the xsystemd.automount in fstab, we'll see how that
works.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM Warren Young <warren at
etr-usa.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Fred <fred.fredex at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I assume that the yottamaster device runs Linux, just like
99% of
> other
> >> > such devices.
> >>
> >> 99% of NAS boxes, maybe, but not dumb RAID boxes like the one I
believe
> >> you?re referring to.
> >>
> >> (And I doubt even that, with the likes of FreeNAS extending down
from
> the
> >> enterprise space where consumer volume can affect that sort of
thing.)
> >>
> >> I have more than speculation to back that guess: the available
firmware
> >> images are far too small to contain a Linux OS image, their
manuals
> don?t
> >> talk about Linux or GPL that I can see, and there?s no place to
download
> >> their Linux source code per the GPL.
> >>
> >> While doing this exploration, I?ve run into multiple problems with
their
> >> web site, which strengthens my suspicion that this box is your
> culprit.  If
> >> they?re this slipshod with their marketing material, what does
that say
> >> about their engineering department?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CentOS mailing list
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> >
> >>
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>
> $ cat /etc/centos-release > CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core) > > $ sudo systemctl status mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount > [sudo] password for fredex: > ? mnt-backup.mount - /mnt/backup > Loaded: loaded (/etc/fstab; bad; vendor preset: disabled) > Active: active (mounted) since Sat 2021-01-02 22:20:05 EST; 14h ago > Where: /mnt/backup > What: /dev/sdc1 > Docs: man:fstab(5) > man:systemd-fstab-generator(8) > Tasks: 0 > > ? mnt-backup.automount > Loaded: loaded > Active: inactive (dead) > Where: /mnt/backup > [fredex at fcshome Desktop]$ systemctl cat mnt-backup.mount > mnt-backup.automount > No files found for mnt-backup.automount. > # /run/systemd/generator/mnt-backup.mount > # Automatically generated by systemd-fstab-generator > > [Unit] > SourcePath=/etc/fstab > Documentation=man:fstab(5) man:systemd-fstab-generator(8) > RequiresOverridable=systemd-fsck at dev-disk-by > \x2duuid-259ec5ea\x2de8a4\x2d465a\x2 > After=systemd-fsck at dev-disk-by > \x2duuid-259ec5ea\x2de8a4\x2d465a\x2d9263\x2d1c062 > > [Mount] > What=/dev/disk/by-uuid/259ec5ea-e8a4-465a-9263-1c06217b9aaf > Where=/mnt/backup > Type=ext4 > Options=noauto > > the fstab statement I put in my last posting was a copy/paste from > /etc/fstab, so it should be correct as shown. I don't see a comma before > noauto. >Did you already try a reboot? Don't ask me why I ask this. Regards, Simon> > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:42 AM Strahil Nikolov <hunter86_bg at yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Are you still on 7.6 ? I recently discovered that a bug in sysstat was >> fixed in 7.7 that prevented autofs from umounting the filesystem. >> >> The following should show if it's taking into action: >> systemctl status mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount >> systemctl cat mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount >> >> >> Are you sure that you got no "," before that "noauto" ? >> >> Best Regards, >> Strahil Nikolov >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 16:25:47 ???????+2, Fred < >> fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????: >> >> >> >> >> >> Strahil: >> >> I WAS using that, but the automatic umount never worked, leaving it >> mounted all the time. >> >> I commented out those entries in /etc/auto.master before modifying the >> fstab entry: >> >> UUID=259ec5ea-e8a4-465a-9263-1c06217b9aaf /mnt/backup >> ext4,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.idle-timeout=15min noauto 0 >> 2 >> >> which is exactly as it was before except for the x-systemd entries as >> you >> described. >> >> and the peculiar thing is it STILL does not automount. and yes, I did do >> systemctl restart local-fs.target. >> >> do I need to reboot (or something simpler, maybe) to fully disable the >> auto.master stuff? >> >> Thanks again! >> >> Fred >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:54 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS < >> centos at centos.org> wrote: >> > Hi Fred, >> > >> > do you use automatic umount for the map in /etc/auto.master >> (--timeout) ? >> > >> > If yes, then the systemd mount options probably won't help. >> > >> > Best Regards, >> > Strahil Nikolov >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 04:27:17 ???????+2, Fred < >> fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yeah, and the instructions for setting RAID-1 or RAID-0 have the >> switch >> > positions exactly reversed. >> > >> > Strahil: I'm using autofs to automount the unit. but just turned that >> off >> > and enabled the xsystemd.automount in fstab, we'll see how that works. >> > >> > Fred >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM Warren Young <warren at etr-usa.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Fred <fred.fredex at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I assume that the yottamaster device runs Linux, just like 99% of >> other >> >> > such devices. >> >> >> >> 99% of NAS boxes, maybe, but not dumb RAID boxes like the one I >> believe >> >> you?re referring to. >> >> >> >> (And I doubt even that, with the likes of FreeNAS extending down from >> the >> >> enterprise space where consumer volume can affect that sort of >> thing.) >> >> >> >> I have more than speculation to back that guess: the available >> firmware >> >> images are far too small to contain a Linux OS image, their manuals >> don?t >> >> talk about Linux or GPL that I can see, and there?s no place to >> download >> >> their Linux source code per the GPL. >> >> >> >> While doing this exploration, I?ve run into multiple problems with >> their >> >> web site, which strengthens my suspicion that this box is your >> culprit. If >> >> they?re this slipshod with their marketing material, what does that >> say >> >> about their engineering department? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> CentOS mailing list >> >> CentOS at centos.org >> >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CentOS mailing list >> > CentOS at centos.org >> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CentOS mailing list >> > CentOS at centos.org >> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
Erm ... the noauto should be part of the options column, so append it to the previous option (and of course delimit with a ","). I see that the '.automount' was not generated ... Maybe it's related to the noauto issue. By the way , "mount -a" should complain if fstab is not OK. Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 21:01:29 ???????+2, Fred <fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????: $ cat /etc/centos-release CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core) $ sudo systemctl status mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount [sudo] password for fredex: ? mnt-backup.mount - /mnt/backup ? ?Loaded: loaded (/etc/fstab; bad; vendor preset: disabled) ? ?Active: active (mounted) since Sat 2021-01-02 22:20:05 EST; 14h ago ? ? Where: /mnt/backup ? ? ?What: /dev/sdc1 ? ? ?Docs: man:fstab(5) ? ? ? ? ? ?man:systemd-fstab-generator(8) ? ? Tasks: 0 ? mnt-backup.automount ? ?Loaded: loaded ? ?Active: inactive (dead) ? ? Where: /mnt/backup [fredex at fcshome Desktop]$ systemctl cat mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount No files found for mnt-backup.automount. # /run/systemd/generator/mnt-backup.mount # Automatically generated by systemd-fstab-generator [Unit] SourcePath=/etc/fstab Documentation=man:fstab(5) man:systemd-fstab-generator(8) RequiresOverridable=systemd-fsck at dev-disk-by\x2duuid-259ec5ea\x2de8a4\x2d465a\x2 After=systemd-fsck at dev-disk-by\x2duuid-259ec5ea\x2de8a4\x2d465a\x2d9263\x2d1c062 [Mount] What=/dev/disk/by-uuid/259ec5ea-e8a4-465a-9263-1c06217b9aaf Where=/mnt/backup Type=ext4 Options=noauto the fstab statement I put in my last posting was a copy/paste from /etc/fstab, so it should be correct as shown. I don't see a comma before noauto. On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:42 AM Strahil Nikolov <hunter86_bg at yahoo.com> wrote:> Are you still on 7.6 ? I recently discovered that a bug in sysstat was fixed in 7.7 that prevented autofs from umounting the filesystem. > > The following should show if it's taking into action: > systemctl status mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount > systemctl cat mnt-backup.mount mnt-backup.automount > > > Are you sure that you got no "," before that "noauto" ? > > Best Regards, > Strahil Nikolov? > > > > > > > ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 16:25:47 ???????+2, Fred <fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????: > > > > > > Strahil: > > I WAS using that, but the automatic umount never worked, leaving it mounted all the time. > > I commented out those entries in /etc/auto.master before modifying the fstab entry: > > UUID=259ec5ea-e8a4-465a-9263-1c06217b9aaf ? ? ? /mnt/backup ? ? ext4,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.idle-timeout=15min ? noauto ?0 ? ? ? 2 > > which is exactly as it was before except for the x-systemd entries as you described. > > and the peculiar thing is it STILL does not automount. and yes, I did do systemctl restart local-fs.target. > > do I need to reboot (or something simpler, maybe) to fully disable the auto.master stuff? > > Thanks again! > > Fred > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:54 AM Strahil Nikolov via CentOS <centos at centos.org> wrote: >> Hi Fred, >> >> do you use automatic umount for the map in /etc/auto.master (--timeout) ? >> >> If yes, then the systemd mount options probably won't help. >> >> Best Regards, >> Strahil Nikolov >> >> ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ??????, 3 ?????? 2021 ?., 04:27:17 ???????+2, Fred <fred.fredex at gmail.com> ??????: >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, and the instructions for setting RAID-1 or RAID-0 have the switch >> positions exactly reversed. >> >> Strahil: I'm using autofs to automount the unit. but just turned that off >> and enabled the xsystemd.automount in fstab, we'll see how that works. >> >> Fred >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM Warren Young <warren at etr-usa.com> wrote: >> >>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Fred <fred.fredex at gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > I assume that the yottamaster device runs Linux, just like 99% of other >>> > such devices. >>> >>> 99% of NAS boxes, maybe, but not dumb RAID boxes like the one I believe >>> you?re referring to. >>> >>> (And I doubt even that, with the likes of FreeNAS extending down from the >>> enterprise space where consumer volume can affect that sort of thing.) >>> >>> I have more than speculation to back that guess: the available firmware >>> images are far too small to contain a Linux OS image, their manuals don?t >>> talk about Linux or GPL that I can see, and there?s no place to download >>> their Linux source code per the GPL. >>> >>> While doing this exploration, I?ve run into multiple problems with their >>> web site, which strengthens my suspicion that this box is your culprit.? If >>> they?re this slipshod with their marketing material, what does that say >>> about their engineering department? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS at centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >