Dave Stevens
2020-Dec-13 20:25 UTC
[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner <rainer at ultra-secure.de> wrote:> It?s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work > into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a > day on it.not like Debian for instance d
Orion Poplawski
2020-Dec-13 21:16 UTC
[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream
On 12/13/20 1:25 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 > Rainer Duffner <rainer at ultra-secure.de> wrote: > >> It?s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work >> into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a >> day on it. > > not like Debian for instance > > dThe workflow is very different. For a primary distribution, updates to different packages happen at different times. Contributors can do that work when they have the time. For a rebuild, work must happen as fast as possible after RHEL has released an update. Much harder for volunteers to contribute to. There are other support roles that volunteers can hopefully do, but the core mission doesn't really align well with that. -- Orion Poplawski Manager of NWRA Technical Systems 720-772-5637 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion at nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 https://www.nwra.com/
Lamar Owen
2020-Dec-17 17:29 UTC
[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream
On 12/13/20 3:25 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner > <rainer at ultra-secure.de> wrote: >> It?s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work >> into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a >> day on it. > not like Debian for instanceNo, not at all like Debian.? Debian doesn't have to try to match the unattainable goal of 100% binary compatibility with an upstream source.? I've seen a small part of this first-hand, and deducing the build order to gain binary compatibility is the one thing that can single-thread the build process quicker than anything else.? RHEL doesn't even have the same need; an RHEL rebuild that didn't have the goal to be bug-compatible near the 100% level doesn't, either, and can be built by a lot of people. Try it yourself: go back to CentOS 5.5 and attempt to rebuild the released sources for 5.6 and get a binary compatible build.? I've done it myself for IA64; it was a pain. All of the upstream distributions, Debian, Fedora, etc, have a lot of latitude that CentOS never has enjoyed.